So i have been 100% raw for more than 1,5 year eating between 2000  and 5000 kcal on fruits and greens, some overt fat on some days and whithout on others. I struggled with getting my energy back , muscles feeling often sore even if not doing a lot and even if eating à lot (before doing lfrv i Was training for triathlon) ,.And recently I did an rawtil4 experiment with potatoes for 3 weeks and  surprisingly i got my energy back, Was enthousiast on being able to train again:) , but digestion Was not that good since it was already not verygood on all raw and i gained weight and water weight (cellulite?) So i tried to go back to all raw and even eating around 4000kcal, my muscles are sore again whithout doing non intense exercices and i feel again drained...

So am I the only one to experiment such thing  Do you think it could be kind on fructose absorption difficulties ? Am i doing something wrong ? 

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  • Have you been sleeping and drinking enough water consistently between this transition? Food combining properly so that you're absorbing the nutrients you need as well? Getting enough variety of greens? Water immensely helps the body flush out cellular waste.

    Could you perhaps give a snapshot on cronometer of a 7 day average nutritional profile? There are numerous factors involved in recovery and energy levels. As another resort, it might be a good recommendation to get a full spectrum of your blood work done just in case. Some common pitfalls I've noticed in my diet in the past was Vit E, Selenium, Zinc, Omega 3:6 ratio, Calcium:Magnesium ratio, and Iodine which were easily corrected by adding less/more of certain fruits. But I'd start with both the 7 day profile and blood work just to be on the safe side.

    • Eli may I ask how did you rectify the pitfalls you mentioned.  Especially the iodine and zinc, since I have discovered I am deficient in both I am supplementing Iodine and the cofactors but I much rather get it through food.  Actually I would love to hear how you fixed all the issues you mentioned.  Any insight you have I would love to hear thanks. 

      • Zinc is not a mineral that is typically stored in the body and is needed to be taken sufficiently on a daily basis. Any melons and spinach, along with flaxseeds/tahini covers me 12-13 g a day, when the required amount for males is 11g per day. I made sure to keep track of it through cronometer on a daily basis for about a month and including to observe weekly averages.

        In terms of Iodine, I've been eating a sheet or two of dried seaweed and sprinkling it in my salad.

        Vitamin E intake was easily reached to 15g per day with mangoes and apricots. At times I'd dry them at home, although on a regular basis, I prefer eating TONS of mangos.

        Selenium intake is filled to 100% easily by basically eating a brazil nut with my salad.

        The omega 3:6 ratio is optimally 1:2.3, with the minimum omega 6 intake as recommended by the WHO is 2.5% of daily calories. I include tahini/coconut meat for omega 6 and flaxseed/chia for omega 3, and adjust how much I put in there as a balance to accommodate the ratio and stay within 5-10% calories coming from fat.

        Calcium and Magnesium almost always ends up being 1:1 regardless of the fruit I consume, and phosphorus about 1.5 to this ratio, which optimal for bone health.

        Vit. D has always been easy since I swim in an outdoor pool for 4-5 hours a day at the moment LOL. And B12 I tested to have almost a deficiency, and was extremely concerned for permanent neural damage, so started to supplement with 1ml of cyanocobalamin shots, and they've worked effectively. My levels are at 550 at the moment (after being mid 100s in my first year during rv811).

        • Wow awesome response. I guess I have to start including overts. I have been avoiding them but perhaps that isn't wise. Thanks so much for your information
        • This is a very regular day where I am moderately active and in the pool for 3 hours with 10 miles of light cycling, and half an hour of lifting/calisthenics/stretching under my coach. 87.2%C/7.7%F/5%P

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          • Rest day - I'd recommend getting in at least a bare minimum of twice your BMR to obtain all your nutritional needs (which is easily done with variety, not just bananas and lettuce). Mine is 2000, so with a long slow swim practice with some stretching, 4000 kcal for that less active day.

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    • Thanks for your answer and your interest. So i did not follow my diet on chrono ô meter but since i eat mostly the same kind of foods each seasons it was not that difficult to have an idea of what could be missing: so selenium and E vitamin could have been low. Concerning sleeping and water nothing was different between raw and thé cooked expériment , not great i must admit eating somtimes late in the evening, having un régularisation work schedule.perhaps i should pay attention on m'y sleep schedule and see if it could be Linked...

      • If you have been eating similarly, perhaps post a snapshot of a typical day/nutritional profile of a week on cronometer here? And both the amounts of sleep and water you've been getting for these years? It's basically impossible to answer any of your questions without this information. I don't wish to blindly answer.

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