Posted by Alana on April 8, 2016 at 10:59am in Main Chat
Okay so, I TOTALLY agree about teens doing their own thing and managing their lives for themselves. The issue is that I'm not compleatly independent, and quite frankly my parents buy my food.. As parents should. As I said earlier, my mom is pretty fucked up and has a lot of misconceptions but she thinks she knows everything. My dad just goes along with whatever she says. I know this may sound like 'oh she's just some typical teen who has some frustrations and arguments with her parents'... This is NOT that. I have two older sisters and my mom has emotionally abused us all. She is better with me than she was with them and I don't tell you this for pity: I'm mentioning this to show the kind of person that she is.. She is stubborn and never admits she's wrong and never says she's sorry and thinks she is an expert on all this food related. She also thinks she knows exactly what is right for me. I know her and I know she will NOT believe me unless someone she deems credible (a doctor) tells her I'm right. Since I don't have anyone who can do this she will just say no that's redicullous and crazy and would be hard to manage. I don't know how to show you the kind of control she truly has over my life. I feel trapped and the only escape I can see is turning 18
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I'm sorry to hear about your situation! That sounds exactly like my mother. Except my mom has gotten a little better and I no longer live with her. How old are you now? I assume you're about to turn eighteen like you said? I live in Milwaukee. :-) The best thing that I can think of is to get a job at a health food store where you can possibly get organic produce there at a better price. Maybe it could be an escape from your life at home as well. Feel free to talk to me if you would like. I'm 24. but live not too far away. The fruit is getting more abundant more now. The weather is improving. There will be more opportunities for you to escape and leave the house a little bit and hopefully benefit from that. You're on the right path though. Don't let anyone, even your mom or anyone who you look up to tell you otherwise. You know what you're doing and it's tough because our parents come from a very structured conditioned "i'm right and you're wrong, I'm not sorry" generation. Not all people but the majority. Let me know, feel free to talk to me if you would like.
That is a good idea ... Maybe I could work at trader joes! I'm 16 and a half so I've still got a bit to go... It's really nice to hear from someone who has had a similar situation!
Thank you so much!
Exactly! That sounds great! see, it looks like you have already found a place that you like. And I bet you could get a great deal on produce that way! When they get a bunch of bananas or whatever and they're about to throw them away (if they do that) you can say I'll take them! haha And you're so very welcome! I actually know a Dr. That you can write to. It's 100% free. He actually has a youtube channel and you can send in your questions and he will answer it. Anything you like. Tell him in your email about your situation at home and he would be more than happy to re assure and convince your parents that this is a sustainable lifestyle and also the way that humans are meant to eat whether they would like to believe it or not. and that they should support you. Ask him to tell your parents directly through video to let you do this and for them to support you through this. (I've seen him do this a number of times already for minors who lived with their parents that didn't approve) And then show them the video. I'm sure he will be more than happy to do that for you. And that is the proof that your mom wanted and this is a doctor who has been in practice for over 50 years. Has all degrees, a biochemist, Etc. So yea. I'll link you the email or channel if you want let me know and I can message it to you. He has hundreds of videos full of hours of excellent information that can help you a lot.
that would be so awesome! He sounds like a really helpful resource and I will definitely contact him. Right now I am trying to finish up this semester and also trying to gather research to convince my parents, I'm aming to be HCRV by the summer!
Alright! I will do that for you. He's a great person. Such a nice great guy to put himself out there like that. He helps and has helped cure hundreds of thousands of people heal their diseases, Etc. on a raw vegan diet primarily and also with the aid of some wild herbs. but his strong emphasis on raw vegan diet for human beings and the knowledge he has is pretty staggering and intimidating. He's really brilliant. I'll Message you some information. I have faith that you can do it! This is really going to help you a lot. I was once sixteen years old and falling apart sick and I found this lifestyle and that literally saved me! and I think you can show your parents this as well. I myself have healed myself through this lifestyle so I can speak from my own personal experience. As a very healthy young 24 year old male. I have started learning about raw foods and veganism around your age (16) and I have been 100% vegan raw mostly and some cooked for over four years now. So you can let your mom know that :-) I'm a heavy skateboarder as well. I'm very athletic. I do a lot of exercise and I'm completely healthy going into five years of veganism. So through my experience, I've never felt better. I will email you some information that I think will really change your life even further.
I feel the same way, I have a lot of mental health issues that I'm dealing with right now and I think that healing my body would help heal my mind. Naturally I am very athletic too however, lately I haven't been doing much because I have had no motivation. I'm hoping that my energy will go up and I will be able to have fun doing the things that make me feel good!
Thank you so much for all of your help, I really appreciate it and I can't wait to get some solid evidence showing that this lifestyle is amazing!
I'm sorry to hear that. I Have that as well. and you CAN and WILL heal all of that through this. You're absolutely right though. Healing your body will heal your mind. I know, if your adrenal glands are down(which most peoples are from not enough sleep,staying up late, diet of course! eating meat, Having coffee, not having fruit sugars or fructose, carbohydrates which is the fuel for the human beings Etc.) these will tax your adrenal glands which lets just say give you energy really. Like little batteries so if they are down of course you are going to feel unmotivated! :-/ sad and depressed. I promise that you will get better and be able to do the things that you love again :-) Hang in there! And I will! Oh man, I could spam you with loads of information! haha there are so many great before and after raw vegan transformation videos online. I sent you a message. Take your time reading and don't stress having to get back to me! Message me if you have any questions! I hope that this broadens your horizon further to a next level of healing. It was nice talking to you! Enjoy and you have a good night as well!
Just sayin' depending on your relationship with your parents you can always refuse to eat and/or refuse certain activities that they want you to do until they allow you to eat the way you want to eat, assuming they have no real objections like cost (assuming you wanted good quality organic fruits that weren't high in calorie). You can't make them go vegan, you can just hope they slowly change. But you can usually make them give you more autonomy.
Remember, they can shop for you if they want, or you can if they make you do it, just refuse to eat what they did not buy for you. Ask for potatoes, spaghetti, pasta sauce, oranges/bananas, etc, then eat that. If they claim it's too expensive, tell them you won't eat anything you do not count up and offer to count what you request through the receipts they give you. You can always go to the store to pick your own stuff too, if you have the time.
Also, if what I was getting about her thinking it's unhealthy, as you mentioned a doctor, again, refuse food or activities they want you to do, especially if you dislike them and don't care about them and their outcomes. It's not the ideal approach, but if it means something to you they literally have to give in to you unless they want to cause a family disaster and be responsible for their daughter quiting school and/or not eating.
PS- you don't have to not actually eat, just after-school on your way home stop by a Chinese restaurant and get tons of rice, or go to a store and drink some juice, etc. It's quick, easy, likely affordable short-term, and it'll keep you actually okay while they think you starve. It all depends on how much you want (X) and how much you're willing to trash to get your way.
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I'm sorry to hear about your situation! That sounds exactly like my mother. Except my mom has gotten a little better and I no longer live with her. How old are you now? I assume you're about to turn eighteen like you said? I live in Milwaukee. :-) The best thing that I can think of is to get a job at a health food store where you can possibly get organic produce there at a better price. Maybe it could be an escape from your life at home as well. Feel free to talk to me if you would like. I'm 24. but live not too far away. The fruit is getting more abundant more now. The weather is improving. There will be more opportunities for you to escape and leave the house a little bit and hopefully benefit from that. You're on the right path though. Don't let anyone, even your mom or anyone who you look up to tell you otherwise. You know what you're doing and it's tough because our parents come from a very structured conditioned "i'm right and you're wrong, I'm not sorry" generation. Not all people but the majority. Let me know, feel free to talk to me if you would like.
Thank you so much!
Exactly! That sounds great! see, it looks like you have already found a place that you like. And I bet you could get a great deal on produce that way! When they get a bunch of bananas or whatever and they're about to throw them away (if they do that) you can say I'll take them! haha And you're so very welcome! I actually know a Dr. That you can write to. It's 100% free. He actually has a youtube channel and you can send in your questions and he will answer it. Anything you like. Tell him in your email about your situation at home and he would be more than happy to re assure and convince your parents that this is a sustainable lifestyle and also the way that humans are meant to eat whether they would like to believe it or not. and that they should support you. Ask him to tell your parents directly through video to let you do this and for them to support you through this. (I've seen him do this a number of times already for minors who lived with their parents that didn't approve) And then show them the video. I'm sure he will be more than happy to do that for you. And that is the proof that your mom wanted and this is a doctor who has been in practice for over 50 years. Has all degrees, a biochemist, Etc. So yea. I'll link you the email or channel if you want let me know and I can message it to you. He has hundreds of videos full of hours of excellent information that can help you a lot.
that would be so awesome! He sounds like a really helpful resource and I will definitely contact him. Right now I am trying to finish up this semester and also trying to gather research to convince my parents, I'm aming to be HCRV by the summer!
Alright! I will do that for you. He's a great person. Such a nice great guy to put himself out there like that. He helps and has helped cure hundreds of thousands of people heal their diseases, Etc. on a raw vegan diet primarily and also with the aid of some wild herbs. but his strong emphasis on raw vegan diet for human beings and the knowledge he has is pretty staggering and intimidating. He's really brilliant. I'll Message you some information. I have faith that you can do it! This is really going to help you a lot. I was once sixteen years old and falling apart sick and I found this lifestyle and that literally saved me! and I think you can show your parents this as well. I myself have healed myself through this lifestyle so I can speak from my own personal experience. As a very healthy young 24 year old male. I have started learning about raw foods and veganism around your age (16) and I have been 100% vegan raw mostly and some cooked for over four years now. So you can let your mom know that :-) I'm a heavy skateboarder as well. I'm very athletic. I do a lot of exercise and I'm completely healthy going into five years of veganism. So through my experience, I've never felt better. I will email you some information that I think will really change your life even further.
I feel the same way, I have a lot of mental health issues that I'm dealing with right now and I think that healing my body would help heal my mind. Naturally I am very athletic too however, lately I haven't been doing much because I have had no motivation. I'm hoping that my energy will go up and I will be able to have fun doing the things that make me feel good!
Thank you so much for all of your help, I really appreciate it and I can't wait to get some solid evidence showing that this lifestyle is amazing!
Have a good night!
I'm sorry to hear that. I Have that as well. and you CAN and WILL heal all of that through this. You're absolutely right though. Healing your body will heal your mind. I know, if your adrenal glands are down(which most peoples are from not enough sleep,staying up late, diet of course! eating meat, Having coffee, not having fruit sugars or fructose, carbohydrates which is the fuel for the human beings Etc.) these will tax your adrenal glands which lets just say give you energy really. Like little batteries so if they are down of course you are going to feel unmotivated! :-/ sad and depressed. I promise that you will get better and be able to do the things that you love again :-) Hang in there! And I will! Oh man, I could spam you with loads of information! haha there are so many great before and after raw vegan transformation videos online. I sent you a message. Take your time reading and don't stress having to get back to me! Message me if you have any questions! I hope that this broadens your horizon further to a next level of healing. It was nice talking to you! Enjoy and you have a good night as well!
Just sayin' depending on your relationship with your parents you can always refuse to eat and/or refuse certain activities that they want you to do until they allow you to eat the way you want to eat, assuming they have no real objections like cost (assuming you wanted good quality organic fruits that weren't high in calorie).
You can't make them go vegan, you can just hope they slowly change. But you can usually make them give you more autonomy.
Remember, they can shop for you if they want, or you can if they make you do it, just refuse to eat what they did not buy for you. Ask for potatoes, spaghetti, pasta sauce, oranges/bananas, etc, then eat that. If they claim it's too expensive, tell them you won't eat anything you do not count up and offer to count what you request through the receipts they give you.
You can always go to the store to pick your own stuff too, if you have the time.
Also, if what I was getting about her thinking it's unhealthy, as you mentioned a doctor, again, refuse food or activities they want you to do, especially if you dislike them and don't care about them and their outcomes.
It's not the ideal approach, but if it means something to you they literally have to give in to you unless they want to cause a family disaster and be responsible for their daughter quiting school and/or not eating.
PS- you don't have to not actually eat, just after-school on your way home stop by a Chinese restaurant and get tons of rice, or go to a store and drink some juice, etc. It's quick, easy, likely affordable short-term, and it'll keep you actually okay while they think you starve.
It all depends on how much you want (X) and how much you're willing to trash to get your way.
Hi.
1/ Do your parents make you eat non Vegan food?
2/ Do they not provide you with enough Vegan food?
3/ Do they provide you with enough Vegan food?
If its 3/ and they won't turn Vegan no matter what you say then stop your whining and accept that at this stage of your lives you won't change them.
Love what you can about them and let the rest slide.
Yes, I am a parent.
Paul
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