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    <title>aajonus vonderplanitz - Forum - The Frugivore Diet</title>
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    <updated>2023-02-13T15:32:39Z</updated>
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        <entry>
            <title>&quot;Are you allowed to dead lift cars if your a vegan?&quot;</title>
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            <published>2010-09-27T05:39:23.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-27T05:39:23.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;I get this question all the time... They say 'Harley, Im so strong that I dead lift cars for fun, but will I still be able to do this as a vegan?' &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The real reality is that society is so out of shape people freak out if they cant find the remote control cos they dont have enough energy to get off their asses that are full of carcass, to go change the channel.. ;)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;385&quot; data=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/qLBJcvts3G4?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowScriptAccess&quot; value=&quot;never&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowNetworking&quot; value=&quot;internal&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/qLBJcvts3G4?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;false&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed wmode=&quot;opaque&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/qLBJcvts3G4?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;never&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;385&quot; allownetworking=&quot;internal&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>I dont blame Daniel Vitalis for hating being a 'raw vegan'..</title>
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            <published>2010-09-17T08:55:32.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-17T08:55:32.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Maybe I have been a bit harsh on him lately..listen what the poor dude was trying to 'surthrive' on.&quot;Coconut oil, olive oil and kale..&quot;&lt;object width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; data=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowScriptAccess&quot; value=&quot;never&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowNetworking&quot; value=&quot;internal&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;false&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed wmode=&quot;opaque&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;never&quot; allownetworking=&quot;internal&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Ive got no judgement about people eating animals..</title>
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            <published>2010-09-17T05:18:11.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-17T05:18:11.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Heck, Ive got someone in the oven now! &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:left;&quot;&gt;&lt;img width=&quot;721&quot; src=&quot;{{#staticFileLink}}8191581670,original{{/staticFileLink}}&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Susan Schenk - what we can learn from her fruit phobic experience.</title>
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            <published>2010-09-15T13:56:05.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-15T13:56:05.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Susan is a lovely lady Im sure and this youtube vid is done to give empowering information to those that are confused about eating lots of fat vs lots of fruits.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width=&quot;640&quot; height=&quot;385&quot; data=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/R5FN_RBXHJA?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowScriptAccess&quot; value=&quot;never&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowNetworking&quot; value=&quot;internal&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/R5FN_RBXHJA?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;false&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed wmode=&quot;opaque&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/R5FN_RBXHJA?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;never&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; height=&quot;385&quot; allownetworking=&quot;internal&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>&quot;I feel on the edge of insanity..&quot;</title>
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            <published>2010-09-15T13:30:22.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-15T13:30:22.000Z</updated>
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                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', sans-serif;line-height:19px;&quot;&gt;I gave gave a talk last night and as soon as I mentioned what I eat, a person shouted out 'I cant eat that! Ive got cancer and fruit feeds the tumors!'.&lt;br style=&quot;font-size:1em;&quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-size:1em;&quot; /&gt;I said 'well you must have eaten up to 140 bananas a day cos I eat up to 70 and dont have cancer..' They didnt get it. We talked a bit more and they had paid big bucks to the natropath to be put on a starvation diet of eggs, coconut oil and kale. I asked em how they are feeling. They said &lt;b&gt;they felt on the edge of insanity.&lt;/b&gt; I explained thats normal for a person on a low carb diet as serotonin levels get depressed and depression ensues.&lt;br style=&quot;font-size:1em;&quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-size:1em;&quot; /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2004/carbs.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,102,0);font-size:1em;&quot;&gt;http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2004/carbs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;font-size:1em;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Aajonus Vonderplanitz is a fraud?</title>
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            <published>2010-09-14T03:02:19.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-09-14T03:02:19.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Aajonus Vonderplanitz is from California and his real name is Dick something. He was an actor on General Hospital turn diet guru overnight. He has a self appointed Phd in nutrition. In an interview with Stanley Bass Aajonus said &quot;&lt;font class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;arial, helvetica, sans-serif, 'sans serif'&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-size:small;&quot;&gt;I have always since age of 3, craved orgasim.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He has a book called 'We want to live' and its written like a novel. Very entertaining reading but for the uninformed, very dangerous information. Aajonus talks about eating green bananas vs ripe ones and that you should eat lots of white bread baguettes with raw unsalted butter if you get low blood sugar. But sweet fruit is bad he says.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A good friend of mine and ex housemate was an Aajonus fan. She ate his high fat, low fruit diet and I personally felt she suffered the whole time from melancholy, fatigue and binge prone eating as I later found out. She ended up getting some food poisoning from animal products and decided to do an unsupervised fast with phone guidance from 'dont eat more than a banana a day' John Fielder. She got real dehydrated and ended up in hospital on life support and passed away soon after from renal failure. I was in Thailand at the time and know for fact that had she not eaten this high fat, animal based diet, she would be here today and a different person.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of the people that I have met that eat raw animal products have experienced varing levels of dental decay. From missing teeth to increasing cavities. Its no suprise with the amount of high acid load animal products that are consumed. Lots of raw milk, cream, eggs, cow muscle and bird. Apparently its meant to raise b12 levels but all of my friends that have shared their blood tests with me have low to borderline b12 serum levels. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Aajonus came to Australia last year and gave a talk in Robina QLD. I knew 3 people that attended and they shared how Aajonus was sick from food poisoning the whole time. He had to cut his talk off early and spent the day and night vomiting in a bath tub and over the balcony outside. When question what was wrong, Aajonus said 'I was poisoned by the Thai mafia..' &lt;b&gt;Yep&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He charged one of my friends 400$AUS for a 1hr consult. Fair enough but let me tell you what my friend got told..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Aajonus looked as his scalp and said: You have a very rare fungal infection and need to consume no water, eat green bananas and put a pin hole in some eggs and leave them on a window seal for 30-40days until they turn black and then eat them. So my friend did and he ended up taken to hospital in an ambulance when his throat shut right up and he felt like he was going to die. They have him IV antibiotics and steriods to fight the infection that was raging in this throat/lymph glands. My friend then when released from h ospital said he felt better and that his diet had 'promoted a cleanse he was not ready for'...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I asked him what is the difference between food poisoning and a cleanse? He said 'well if its raw meat and you get sick, its a cleanse and if its cooked meat and you get sick its food poisoning'.. &lt;b&gt;Really? How do we explain all those people that died of Ecoli, listeria, botulism, stiga spores, salmonella, camphobacteria  from eating animal products or foods contaminated from animal products...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here is a link from Dr Ralph Moss reviewing Aajonus Vonderplanitz book 'we want to live'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/Vonderplanitz.shtml&quot;&gt;http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/Vonderplanitz.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Aajonus also recommends eating animal products for b12. But he says its not enough and you must put some meat in a glass jar and leave it in the fridge for a few months to 'get high'. Im talking black, green and blue 'high'. He also advise coprophagia (eating your own shite). One recipie Aajonus Vonderplanitz advises is '&lt;i&gt;a cut of fatty meat, smeared with your own faeces and put inside a glass jar in the fridge for 6months plus.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now this is coming from the guy that said he was a 'vegetarian sort of vegan' and ended up cycling out in the desert and almost dying but was saved by wild coyotes that killed a rabbit for him and made him eat it. He got healed within hours of his cancer. Yet Aajonus has NEVER shown any evidence of any of his 'hundreds of heart attacks/deathly cancer'. Maybe the word fraud is being generous.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;For example, he claims that he has helped heal over 200 people of&lt;br /&gt;cancer with his approach. He has said this *publicly* in print. And&lt;br /&gt;yet he refuses to provide *any* evidence of these cases. And to the&lt;br /&gt;best of my knowledge, no one has come forward testifying that they&lt;br /&gt;were one of the folks healed by AV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same goes for his own diseases that he claims to have overcome.&lt;br /&gt;They are numerous and quite serious. Surely there is a record&lt;br /&gt;somewhere that he had some of these challenges. Yet nothing, as far as&lt;br /&gt;I know, has been put forth by AV. Such an approach makes it very&lt;br /&gt;difficult to go to bat for him.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My goal of this thread is to bring more information to this person who claims a lot but cant back any of it up. Ive watched his DVD and the highlight is an old man that claims he is in superior health and can now skip rope for a few minutes. &lt;b&gt;Serious.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So next time you need some water, remember, you cant drink water and that Aajonus says '&lt;i&gt;deep yellow urine is a sign of health'&lt;/i&gt; so perhaps just put a tub of raw butter in the dehydrator and melt it down and drink that instead..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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        <entry>
            <title>Why Daniel Vitalis aint a vegan..</title>
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            <published>2010-04-04T09:30:49.000Z</published>
            <updated>2010-04-04T09:30:49.000Z</updated>
            <author>
                <name>DURIANRIDER</name>
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            <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Before I write why Daniel says he aint a vegan no more, does anyone want to have any guesses why that maybe? Just tell them to yourself and then check what Daniel wrote is the same as what you thought.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I got the following off Daniels site cos someone on my youtube channel posted me a link. I already knew what Daniel went thru before I even read what he said.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These are quotes on Daniel's site written by himself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. It was almost psychedelic. I was eating so few calories...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(Here is what Daniel Vitalis was eating as a staple whilst eating a 'raw vegan' diet. Doesnt sound like a surthrival plan to me either!) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;object width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; data=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowScriptAccess&quot; value=&quot;never&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowNetworking&quot; value=&quot;internal&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;false&quot; &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed wmode=&quot;opaque&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/m3h1ODCF4SI?fs=1&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;never&quot; allownetworking=&quot;internal&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. That shiny, energetic feeling that had faded and had been fading for years. My teeth ached and I had recurrent fungal problems. I was chronically hungry (actually the correct term is &quot;starving&quot;), and powerfully addicted to fruit sugar. The more I learned about the dangers of food the more foods I cut out of my diet. There was so little left that I could eat. At this time I didnt eat oils or salt. I didnt use herbs or spices, just fruits and vegetables, seeds and nuts and oh, so many nuts! My digestion was poor and getting worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3. I was now getting enough calories to sustain a healthy body weight (wanna lose weight fast? try living on celery, apples, carrots and almonds).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So how did Daniel eat his way back too cooked foods and animal products? (And Im glad he did so he didnt die or commit suicide like a few 'raw' people have in the recent years)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well at first he started undereating cos there is a lot breatharian believers out there in the raw community- Paul Nison, David Wolfe, David Jubb, Matt Monarch, Gabriel Cousins etc and these are the peeps that have the books out there that the newbies read, belive and then try and emulate. So Daniel was told early that fruit is bad and you need to eat more fats. So those extra fats comes from nuts and eaten in large amounts will rot your teeth and thrash your energy and digestion and all that excess fat intake will give you fungal issues (candida) for sure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Daniel Vitalis- Just another dude that wanted to improve his health and got sucked into the anorexic, money driven, drug addiction, confusion and delusion that is put out there by fruit phobics of the 'healthy industry'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Eat less! If you get sugar cravings then you aint done enough rebirthing yet! You need to stop drinking water and do lots of bikram yoga and eat raw egg yolks that have been sitting on the window sill for 47 days. You need to eat local foods and when you want something sweet, feel free to eat some cacao imported from the other side of the globe cos fruit imported is bad for my business but if I sold fruit Id recommend it. Oh now you dont have much energy left to function both mentally and phsyically? Your enamel is eroding from all that bulimia, high fat diet and ketosis? Well you just need my latest green mushroom intelligence powder and my latest recipie book, that should do it. Heck you just need more ayahuasca man! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Keep hang'n in their champ, Ive always got new products coming out that just might one day help you. In the mean time, everytime you go and eat cooked food, just remember that its got nothing to do with undereating sweet fruit calories but just cos your weak willed. You are weak, pathetic and dont know much. Give me your mastercard number and bow to me as I am your RAW guru! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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