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High potassium in my blood, extremely low iron

2021-05-14T06:12:48.000Z

Hi all,

Recently, I've done my blood test that showed my potassium level is above the maximum and my iron is very below minimum. Does anyone have an issue with potassium? For iron I'll need to take supplement, as this is a long term issue and it's getting worse. There is some prob with hemoglobin as well.

I've read that high potassium is dangerous for kidneys and a level of K is increased when you eat a lot of bananas, potatos, tomatoes,dried fruit.

I do eat 2-3 bananas, 1-2 dried dates in a day. I love potato, so I eat them every day as well as tomatoes. I do eat a lot of raw during the day, cooked in the evening/later in a day.

I'm going to see a doc but in my country we don't have a plant based doc. So again, I'll hear that I need to eat meat or supplement.

Does anyone have a similar problems?

Thank you and I look forward to hearing your views 😊

Sodium-Potassium Ratio

2014-12-05T08:39:09.000Z

Hello everyone! :)
Are there any advice out there on what an ideal ratio between sodium and potassium would be? Is there even one such? And is it even something necessary to consider in terms of health (especially on this lifestyle)?
Thank you!

Kidney Disease & High Potassium

2014-02-12T10:31:00.000Z

I just posted this in the wrong section - I think it belongs here instead so I moved it over...

I was born with kidney disease. It's genetic. My dad had it and he was the recipient of a transplant but he died from a heart attack. That being said though he did not live the healthiest lifestyle.

I'm 23 years old and I have only around 20% function left. Doctors keep warning me I will need dialysis soon but I just do not accept that.

This is why I have been trying to do this high carb/mostly raw diet - I figure if I'm eating the food we are designed to eat it will be less stress to my body and therefore less toxins for my kidneys to remove.

Then enters potassium: If kidneys don't function well they have trouble getting rid of excess potassium. My blood tests recently were slightly high. Nothing close to needing treatment, but still high enough to cause my doctor to be concerned and told me to cut it back in my diet. (It was around 5.4 - should be 5 at the most)

It does freak me out a bit because if you have too much potassium in the blood you can be at risk of a heart attack and I asked me doctor and she said that sometimes there can really be no symptoms to warn you that it's high.

So all of this being said:

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT?

I rely on bananas and dates to get my calories up. I've been playing around with cronometer adding other fruits instead and I still end up with over 6000mg of potassium a day no matter what to get my needed 2000-2500 cals a day. & That's if I don't have a raw dinner and I have white rice instead (low potassium).

ALL fruits contain potassium - and to get enough calories from any fruits it's going to be high no matter what. Even if I don't have bananas etc.

I do not trust the kidney specialist dietician because she basically tells me to eat no more than half a banana a day but it's totally okay to eat lots of red meat for iron because it's easiest for our bodies to absorb in that form (BS!) & that I should be adding butter and oils to all my food to keep my calories up. What a load of crap. The fact that this is the advice that our health system is dishing out is utterly appalling.

Anyway I am really upset. I want this lifestyle to help me not harm me. I hear so many great stories of people healing themselves naturally. Why not me? Why does this disease have to be different.

I don't know what to do.

Does anyone have ANY experience in this?

Hello, new to the 30bananas and lifestyle! Looking for guidance to begin!

2013-03-18T11:46:58.000Z

Hi everyone,

I am so happy to have discovered this community and this way of life. I was once again trying to force my body to slim down, this time through another master cleanse. On 4th day I was tired and hungry and knew that there just has to be something else out there. So I kept going through Youtube and then came across Durianrider and Freelea's channels. I watched and watched and couldn't believe someone was actually telling me to EAT FRUIT! Everyone has always told me not to and that is the one thing I always crave. So what would happen is that I would "relapse" on sugary floury stuff. At one point I even did the Dukan for 2 months, lost the weight, gained it all back and then some. Anyway, having you guys testify to the low fat high carb diet I was so relieved and just feel so much hope! So I broke my master cleanse with fresh squeezed orange juice and then had about 5 small bananas, 2 mangos and half a cantalope. That felt so awesome!! I actually had some strength this morning.

This morning I started with 2 bananas and a mango, however, about half hour later I got stomach cramps and this painful sensation in my stomach, same as I get if I drink apple juice on empty stomach. Anyone has experienced this? What do you eat for breakfast? Any recommendations are very welcome!

Thanks and look forward to connecting with you!

Greenstar

Potassium excess?

2013-03-04T15:18:25.000Z

Background:

So one of my friends who is in med school (I know that does not mean she is a health expert or that this "condition" is caused by HCRV) sent me a link to a medical reference on 'Hyperkalemia" essentially too much potassium in your blood which your body cannot process, as she was concerned with my new "diet" eating all 80/10/10 and at least 15 bananas a day.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/hyperkalemia-000085.htm

Question/Topic:

Has anyone heard of this "issue" within the frugitarian community?

Has anyone who has been HCRV for a longer period of time ever had any blood work done (ie "un safe" potassium levels present)?

(I am researching this some more but I wanted to get the discussion going while I do so. My goal is to find some info to present that this condition cannot occur from simply eating bananas)

Potassium overload and pancreatic strain leading to diabetes

2012-12-19T20:07:22.000Z

Hi Guys,

Wondering if anyone has experience with the following:

My mum has Lupus and gout (and used to be hypo-glycaemic), is on cortisone and also ant-acids for reflux. She has been eating a SAD diet up until about 3 weeks when I convinced her she had to go 80/10/10 high raw vegan, which she has been doing (fairly strictly). She has been feeling a whole lot better, but went to the doctor and had a whole lot of blood tests yesterday. Her doctor is now very worried about her kidneys currently, and has taken her off all sorts of meds. She tells me he totally freaked out at her blood potassium levels, asked her what she was doing. She told him about the high fruit and told her she should make some changes because it was really stressing her pancreas and she would end up with diabetes. She told him she was eating about 4 bananas a day plus a few mangos. He told her that was way too much, that she should steer away from the tropical fruit (too high in potassium) but that other fruit was fine. She's feeling a bit sad because the bananas and mangos were getting her through to lunch easily and staving off hunger.

He also told her not to blend the fruits because they were hitting her bloodstream too quickly (which I think is erroneous since blending keeps the fruit fibres thus slowing down the sugars in the blood...

I asked her about her fat intake and she says she is keeping this very low - usually no more than 1/2 an avo a day.

Anyone have any experience or suggestions here?

Can U eat too many bananas?

2012-10-16T13:38:21.000Z

I eat about 15 bananas a day and find it hard to get enough calories without it. Would love to hear what your opinion is on this article.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/535237-what-happens-if-you-eat-too-many-bananas/

People with migraines. Whats you experience with bananas?

And what about banana ireland?

Kidneys?

2012-09-09T21:57:47.000Z

So I found some info on kidneys on some other discussions, but not really what I was looking for...

One of the main stumbling stones that I have living this lifestyle is that I have mild kidney/appendix issues. Had them for a few years and they haven't fully healed since I tried to do HFRV. Now I know if I can stay on this diet long enough they will heal. I just have a small panic attack if I start to have kidney pings. It's mostly the right one.

And, of course, anyone I try to talk to this about says it's the potassium, blah, blah, blah. I know I can't pound super potassium heavy fruits days on end. Sometimes even a whole watermelon is no bueno.

I know that sodium helps. Sea salt instantly helps, but then I feel gross and puffy the next day. Sometimes I drink water with trace mineral concentrate drops.

I eat celery when I crave it, but should I force feed it? I drink enough water, but should I drink more than 2 liters a day?

Does anyone have any suggestions?

So over kidney pain,

P.S. I've done some emotional work on them and get acupuncture support.

Potassium overload?

2011-12-23T19:13:58.000Z

I went to the store last night with my grandma as she was nice enough to buy me groceries. My cart was half full of bananas, when she saw this, she started commenting to me about how "too many bananas" and there is a possibility I could overdose on potassium. She is a registered nurse and I know conditioned from medical training. I don't buy into this one bit and just shrugged it off, but I wish I had a knowledgable response for when she makes these comments. Can you help me out? And while I'm here I guess I will also throw out there, "is it possible to overdose on potassium from too many bananas?"

more potassium myths

2011-10-23T02:31:49.000Z

so today i was nudging a snake off of a bike trail (with a stick) when some biker stopped to gawk. i struck up a convo with him, which, you guessed it, involved my raw food diet. he warned me to get off the nanners and dates, as too much potassium causes urinary tract infection and high blood pressure.

i know many of you have been on this diet for some time. have you ever had these problems or perhaps know why he seemed so positive of these potential health effects of potassium?

Banana Dangers - Bananaphobia

2011-10-20T13:51:16.000Z

Most of society is bananaphobic, they are bananaphobes, people are afraid of bananas!
When people see me with 20 bananas they start to warn me of what might happen if I eat them all, somehow there is widespread knowledge of the dangers of bananas but not of most other foods.
No doubt they went on to eat a smoked bacon sandwich with melted cheese on buttered bread with egg mayonnaise, followed by a chocolate bar and washed down with a latte.

I have been told there is too much sugar, too much potassium (so I should eat sodium chloride!), causes constipation, causes diarrhea, bad to eat at night, can get you stoned, can give you a heart attack, should eat only ONE a day.

Requesting detailed information to use as ammunition against these attacks.
Harley, it will be really helpful if you make a video about the supposed dangers of bananas.

potassium poisoning

2011-07-24T05:56:59.000Z

so i was catching up with some old buddies tonight and told them while in the midst of eating 5 bananas (which they already couldn't wrap their minds around) that i eat 10-15 of them a day. one of them said his older brother succumb to potassium poisoning (didn't die or anything) years ago. i was wondering how or why this might happen to him and not us. the only thing i could think to ask was if his bananas were ripe or not and maybe that made a difference as they're harder to digest. or having too much fat/protein played a role, and if so, how?

in a related story, i noticed my cronomoter spouting red levels of vitamin a and c (both over 1000% some days), vitamin k, copper, and a few others are always high too. is getting too many vits/mins hard on my body?

in a not so related story, i mopped the floor in tackle football today!! i basically was living in the end zone, making crazy catches, burning my opponent's best player all day, and loving it! love this diet :D

The Potential of Drumstick Vegetable!

2010-11-10T18:31:26.000Z

Does anyone in the forum eat Drumstick Leaves (Horseradish Tree)...

It seems like an amazing food!

Check out this link for some of the benefits:
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100324053048AAzVoTf

Does anyone know where I can buy this in London?

Thanx everyone! :)

Newbie: Troubling Sodium & Potassium situation

2010-08-20T02:37:28.000Z

Hey folks,

I'm new to 30Bad. Recently read David Klein's Self-Healing C&C and have 80/10/10 Diet on order.

I've recently gone to a LFRV diet as advocated by Dr. David Klein to try to tackle my aggravated Crohn's Disease condition. Since then however, I began feeling worse and worse and after a blood test I ended up in hospital with critically low sodium (at risk of siezure) and critically high potassium (at risk of heart failure) i.e. I could have died.

Now there are a few other factors that could have contributed to this. a) I have no large intestine after emergency surgery in 2002 due to Crohn's related complications. This means that I have more difficulty absorbing electrolytes and other minerals such as sodium. b) I wasn't having as much juiced celery juice as was recommended (6-10 stalks per day rather than the 10-20 stalks per day that Dr. Dave has since recommended for me).

Anyway, I spent 3.5 days in the hospital where they corrected my levels and brought them back within a safe range. However, since then (even after juicing more celery and adding sea salt to my diet) the problem of rising potassium has continued. The doctors are not sure why this is happening especially since my adrenal glands seem to be working as they are supposed to (adrenals play a role in regulating sodium & potassium).

Wondering if anyone here has had or knows anyone who has had a similar experience (I seem to be a strange anomaly case) or has any suggestions/resources/contacts that might be able to help shed further light on my particular case.

Peace.

How many bananas can you eat before you die?

2010-02-28T16:11:04.000Z

HAHAHAHAAAA I was just typing into the search engine "how many bananas in 20kg" but I only got as far as the word banana, and "how many bananas will kill you" came up as the most common search!!

I clicked upon it, intrigued...to find this:

"How many bananas can you eat before you die?

I have heard many stories of people eating one too many bananas and ending up in a hospital or dead. I'm sure weight, age, health factors (ex. diabetes) will alter the results; however, I'm just curious about how many bananas are estimated to result in death to the average person.

11 months ago

Additional Details

I read in the news a few days ago about a high school football team that ate bananas before their games to improve performance. However, several of the players ate too many before one game, 1 got really sick, 3 ended up in critical condition, and one died. I don't know how many they ate, but it couldn't have been that much since it was in one setting.

11 months ago"

Apparently they changed the world record breaking banana eating contests to the most people eating them, rather than one person eating more narnas.

Phew a bead of sweat lay upon my brow...mayhap we're all doing to die early?! But then alas, I found this:

"....So the question then becomes, would it be possible to eat enough bananas to cause potassium poisoning? Since the U.S. RDA for potassium is 4,000 mg or so, and since one banana contains about 400 mg, you would have to eat 10 bananas just to hit the RDA. Obviously that is not toxic – that’s the recommendation.

So to get a toxic dose of potassium from bananas, you would have to eat far more than 10 bananas.

If you look up the lethal dose for potassium chloride on a page like this, the oral value is 2,600 mg per kilogram. If you weigh 75 kilograms (165 pounds), you would need to consume 75 * 2,600 = 195,000 mg of potassium to reach fatal levels. That’s 487 bananas worth. Potassium chloride is only about half potassium, so you might need to eat fewer bananas (containing K rather than KCl) than that to achieve toxicity, say by half. But the result is the same – It is hard to imagine that people who are healthy are going to be killing themselves with bananas. It’s hard to imagine someone eating 25 bananas in a day, much less 250."

hahardiha....little doth she know that a 30bananas a day lifestyle is sweeping the globe!!

Banana Mono Diet: Too much potassium and not enough sodium?

2009-01-11T00:43:08.000Z

I know I'm doing a lot of banana posts but this is something I'd really like to clear up, especially since a lot of us are doing [the best we can on] the banana mono diet.A friend sent this to me earlier today:"If the sodium gets to low and the potassium too high, it throws off the human electrolyte system, and can cause problems from mild gastrointestinal problems to kidney problems, to severe cardiac problems (cardiac arrest-death if) if the NA (sodium) gets too low (below 120 for too long) and the K+ (potassium) gets too high. (above 7-7.5)."Any and all feedback appreciated, thanks family:)

My love for the humble banana

2009-01-08T08:53:17.000Z

Okay, bananas. Why do I love bananas? Why am I going to marry them if it ever becomes legal in the state of New Mexico?Because bananas are healing me. I've been suffering from colitis and Crohn's disease for 12 long years. I'm on day 3 of eating just bananas, and I'm healing...as much as I'd like to be masculine right now, I could cry. Literally. But I won't, cuz I don't want to mess up the keyboard. And I hate it when my makeup runs. Stop I don't wear makeup. AHEM.I'd like to tip my hat to Kasey, who originally guided me to bananas, and who also clarified for me that bananas don't actually do the healing...they just enable the body to heal itself...thanks Kase!And thank you Freelea for bringing me to this site and inspiring me with your videos:)(and if I start thanking everyone who's helped me your eyes will burn out. Seriously, you'll have to start the music on me. Suffice it to say I have a lot of dear people to thank.)So if any of you meet or know someone with colitis or Crohn's, please pass on the good news;)That's all I wanted to say. Thanks family:)CrabbyPS-Oh yeah, I'm totally at a loss for how I'm going to transition out of my banana phase, so please, bombard me with knowledge. Any and all contributions are greatly appreciated:)

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