primal diet - Forum - The Frugivore Diet

Paleo diet, primal diet crew take around 126 supplements a day..

2012-02-17T09:21:26.000Z

Over 2500$US per year. On average.

B12, DHEA, TESTOSTERONE, CORTISOL, TRIGLYCERIDES: my levels after 10 years vegan..

2011-11-26T15:13:00.000Z

I only take one supp: b12. The average "Primal Diet" fanboy on Mark Sisson's programme of bacon and eggs is taking in around 127 supps per day if they follow MS's 'platinum autoship package supplementation system'. ;)

How come all the low carb, paleo, primal authors, hucksters missed this one out?

2011-08-06T17:32:22.000Z

Ok, you cant be a vegan cos you wont get enough protein to get out of bed. Not.

You wont get enough b12 and thats why ONLY vegans have b12 issues. Not.

If you eat so many carbs, you'll be obese. Not.

Planting fruit trees is bad for the environment. Not.

You need to drink milk if your a grown man/women. Not.

So they say all that stuff and try and sound educated. But how come when chowing down on their steak and beef lasagne do they forget to mention the original WILD, SUSTAINABLE, EASY TO CATCH tucker there is besides fruits and vegetables.

Thats right INSECTS! :) Oh thats right, that truth is something that wont sell books.

‎'Put down the fruit juice and pick up the meat lovers pizza, bacon and egg breakfasts, big mac sans ketchup( ketchup has 2g of fructose per serve) and laugh as you drive past cyclists and joggers that will end up obese from cardio. If your hungry, eat a green apple but make sure you balance it our with steak fried in lard. When you really want something sweet, its ok to have ice cream as its about a 80/20 rule. Oh yeah, watermelon, that stuff is so high GI it will make you slam on the beef butt.'

Formula of how to write a best seller by telling couch potatoes good things about their bad habits.

Daniel Vitalis & David Wolfe cartoon adventures.

2011-02-18T21:43:41.000Z

Having a bit of a laugh. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRPU8221S-s

Its official!! Durianrider vs Daniel Vitalis live debate! UPDATE: Daniel Vitalis quits.

2011-02-14T04:27:17.000Z

Today Daniel Vitalis confirmed he wants to do a live debate with me. I sent Gianni a pm to see if he wants to be the mediator. Lets see what happens.

Stay tuned for more details.

Colostrum? Do we need it from Wolfe and Vitalis's man boobs?

2011-02-08T07:59:21.000Z

Please share your opinions.

This me hunting kangaroo's in someones front yard.

2011-02-04T23:53:08.000Z

I mean you got me, super fit, can ride 320miles in a day, runs marathons, wins running races etc but cant even catch a kangaroo that is a metre in front of me! No wonder we need weapons and are the ONLY animals that use weapons to catch prey.

Daniel Vitalis has got a new job.

2010-12-17T15:01:54.000Z

He is fixing PC's.

Milk Myths by Daniel Vitalis: Durianrider's response.

2010-12-16T04:35:50.000Z

You's asked for it. Here it is.

Milk Myths by Daniel Vitalis: Durianrider response

2010-12-16T04:34:39.000Z

You asked for it. Here it is.

Dorian Yates on nutrition.

2010-10-22T09:25:00.000Z

Here we have Dorian Yates who is a household name in steroid bodybuilding. Dorian makes a point of saying 'Eat at least 1g of protein per 1lb of bodyweight for athletes training with weights'. He advices 'first class proteins' and 'make sure to use one of the protein powders out there too'.Dorian also advise taking Udo's oil for EFA's.So we have the demographic group that consumes the biggest amounts of animal protein and they still say its not enough and you need to consume a protein powder. They also say its still not enough EFA's and you need a supp.Then we have arm chair athlete raw food MLM sales people that went to a "Get Rich Quick" sales night and after a few years of eating half a kiwi fruit and heaps of nut butters they say 'I wasnt getting enough protein on that raw vegan 1000calorie a day diet' so I need to consume some grass fed roadkill for protein and crack open a can of cat food for EFA's.I guess they are all screwed if even the champion bodybuilders taking super amounts of roid's and eating half a cow and school of fish a week STILL dont get enough EFA's & Amino acids...

Quote from Vitalis' girlfriend.

2010-10-19T04:58:28.000Z

Ali posted a David Attenborough vid on my FB page. So I posted a vid of my own and then

read a bit of her page and came up with these quotes from Ali.

#Time for you to come to the East Coast Mathew, so we can get cosmically activated in unison while consuming wild venison brain.

#Culminated the west coast journeys last evening with an incredible and much needed omnivorous 5-star feast of bison steaks and tartare, beef carpaccio, foie gras, and bone marrow with my homeboys! Amazing to explore new foods :) Excited to ground into home this evening!

Err...maybe I should ease up with critiquing Daniel Vitalis's informercials cos maybe I could end up on the menu somehow..

Tonights feast: Durianrider shanks served with colostrum milkshakes.

Aajonus Vonderplanitz is a fraud?

2010-09-14T03:02:19.000Z

Aajonus Vonderplanitz is from California and his real name is Dick something. He was an actor on General Hospital turn diet guru overnight. He has a self appointed Phd in nutrition. In an interview with Stanley Bass Aajonus said "I have always since age of 3, craved orgasim."

He has a book called 'We want to live' and its written like a novel. Very entertaining reading but for the uninformed, very dangerous information. Aajonus talks about eating green bananas vs ripe ones and that you should eat lots of white bread baguettes with raw unsalted butter if you get low blood sugar. But sweet fruit is bad he says.

A good friend of mine and ex housemate was an Aajonus fan. She ate his high fat, low fruit diet and I personally felt she suffered the whole time from melancholy, fatigue and binge prone eating as I later found out. She ended up getting some food poisoning from animal products and decided to do an unsupervised fast with phone guidance from 'dont eat more than a banana a day' John Fielder. She got real dehydrated and ended up in hospital on life support and passed away soon after from renal failure. I was in Thailand at the time and know for fact that had she not eaten this high fat, animal based diet, she would be here today and a different person.

All of the people that I have met that eat raw animal products have experienced varing levels of dental decay. From missing teeth to increasing cavities. Its no suprise with the amount of high acid load animal products that are consumed. Lots of raw milk, cream, eggs, cow muscle and bird. Apparently its meant to raise b12 levels but all of my friends that have shared their blood tests with me have low to borderline b12 serum levels.

Aajonus came to Australia last year and gave a talk in Robina QLD. I knew 3 people that attended and they shared how Aajonus was sick from food poisoning the whole time. He had to cut his talk off early and spent the day and night vomiting in a bath tub and over the balcony outside. When question what was wrong, Aajonus said 'I was poisoned by the Thai mafia..' Yep.

He charged one of my friends 400$AUS for a 1hr consult. Fair enough but let me tell you what my friend got told..

Aajonus looked as his scalp and said: You have a very rare fungal infection and need to consume no water, eat green bananas and put a pin hole in some eggs and leave them on a window seal for 30-40days until they turn black and then eat them. So my friend did and he ended up taken to hospital in an ambulance when his throat shut right up and he felt like he was going to die. They have him IV antibiotics and steriods to fight the infection that was raging in this throat/lymph glands. My friend then when released from h ospital said he felt better and that his diet had 'promoted a cleanse he was not ready for'...

I asked him what is the difference between food poisoning and a cleanse? He said 'well if its raw meat and you get sick, its a cleanse and if its cooked meat and you get sick its food poisoning'.. Really? How do we explain all those people that died of Ecoli, listeria, botulism, stiga spores, salmonella, camphobacteria from eating animal products or foods contaminated from animal products...

Here is a link from Dr Ralph Moss reviewing Aajonus Vonderplanitz book 'we want to live'.

http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/Vonderplanitz.shtml

Aajonus also recommends eating animal products for b12. But he says its not enough and you must put some meat in a glass jar and leave it in the fridge for a few months to 'get high'. Im talking black, green and blue 'high'. He also advise coprophagia (eating your own shite). One recipie Aajonus Vonderplanitz advises is 'a cut of fatty meat, smeared with your own faeces and put inside a glass jar in the fridge for 6months plus.'

Now this is coming from the guy that said he was a 'vegetarian sort of vegan' and ended up cycling out in the desert and almost dying but was saved by wild coyotes that killed a rabbit for him and made him eat it. He got healed within hours of his cancer. Yet Aajonus has NEVER shown any evidence of any of his 'hundreds of heart attacks/deathly cancer'. Maybe the word fraud is being generous.

For example, he claims that he has helped heal over 200 people of
cancer with his approach. He has said this *publicly* in print. And
yet he refuses to provide *any* evidence of these cases. And to the
best of my knowledge, no one has come forward testifying that they
were one of the folks healed by AV.

The same goes for his own diseases that he claims to have overcome.
They are numerous and quite serious. Surely there is a record
somewhere that he had some of these challenges. Yet nothing, as far as
I know, has been put forth by AV. Such an approach makes it very
difficult to go to bat for him.

My goal of this thread is to bring more information to this person who claims a lot but cant back any of it up. Ive watched his DVD and the highlight is an old man that claims he is in superior health and can now skip rope for a few minutes. Serious.

So next time you need some water, remember, you cant drink water and that Aajonus says 'deep yellow urine is a sign of health' so perhaps just put a tub of raw butter in the dehydrator and melt it down and drink that instead..