How, when, what to start feeding baby 811 style?!

How have you parents out there started your little darlings on solids? I would love to here everyone's approach and tips!My babe's 7 1/2 mo. and still solely on breast milk, though I have tried a tiny bit of persimmon and pear, both of which did not digest at all. I don't feel she really wants solids but some evenings my breast milk has run out and I haven't known what to do. I am new to 811 (I was high fat raw prior), and find it hard to get enough calories, some days. I also wake up so incredibly dehydrated despite the humidity in our room and drinking plenty of water. I feel like I am at a loss if this keeps happening. She just got her first two teeth, but can not yet sit up on her own. She does not let me put things in her mouth very easily, she wants to be the one to do it. So I let her chew on a piece of pear and she loved it, she tried to devour it...but it came off in very small chunks that did not digest. So then I tried to feed her mashed pear with a spoon and she would have nothing to do with it...she certainly is going to be an independent lassie!! I don't want to start her on solids too early but I also don't want her to go hungry or thirsty. Any advice would be really appreciated!!Thank you loves!

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  • My last three babies were my raw babies from utero :) I used teeth as an indication and breastfed as long as I could. front teeth = fruits; molars = veggies; technically they say canines = grains, but .....

    Basically breastmilk is number one, then feed fruits as teeth come in, but still focusing on breastmilk, by the time they get ready for veggies they will be naturally cutting down on the breastmilk consumption. It's definitely a transition process.

    I wouldn't even bother giving any fruits until she can sit up and technically most-not all- babies can wait until a year old before eating anything other than mommy milk! Remember that once you start giving something other than breastmilk, you start the weaning process (of course that process could be 3 years lol).

    I loved feeding my babes ~ still do really
  • Anyadeva,

    I know you wrote about this almost a year ago, so I'm curious how it worked out for you and the baby?

    Could you tell us? I have a daughter that might be interested soon in the diet and the baby, so I would like to gather as much experiences as I can to help her with advice.

    Thank you.
  • Are you sure your breastmilk is run out? Is your baby complaining and switching back and forth or do you just feel like it? Sometimes I feel like I've run out and then my little toddler grabs a boob in his hand and milk squirts all over his face.
  • Hi, I am new to 811, too, and am also BFing an infant 5 1/2 mo. I also have a 3.5 yr old (he prompted me to seek out 811 because I observed that this is how he naturally wants to eat). I would recommend letting your baby take the lead on food. My son had a huge appetite and started solids around 4 mo. He self-weaned slowly and was completely done with breastmilk around 14 mo. He did eat a lot of avos until around 2 when he just decided he didn't want them any more. My new daughter, however, is completely content with only breastmilk. Occassionally, she seems interested in what I am eating, so then I offer some. She seems to really enjoy my fav green smoothie (banana/mango/spinach), so I just follow her cues - sometimes she'll eat a lot and other times she'll take a small taste but not seem interested in eating any. I don't try to feed her solids on any schedule or even every day (or week).

    For you, I agree with the others that calories are the most important. I need min 2500 cal/day and usually am eating over 3000 because of daily excercise/activities. Do you co-sleep and feed on demand? More frequent feeding may help your increase your milk supply. If the baby sleeps with you, she'll probably nurse some during the night.

    I'm very interested to read the responses from some more experienced parents.
  • Anyadeva,

    It is important to make sure you are sufficiently hydrated and nourished otherwise your breastmilk will likely disappear. This would be unfortunate. I recommend mothers aim to breast feed upto the age of 4, though I suggest that children should wean themselves. At 7 months I do not think children should be eating yet unless they have a specific interest in trying certain soft foods. If they do it should be soft foods like avocado, melon or banana.

    What specifically are you eating in a day (ie. specific foods, times, quantities) and how much water are you drinking?

    Take care

    Adam x
  • Hi Anydeva,
    I have raised two children on a fruit diet.
    One was reaching out to grab my fruit when he was three and a half months old. The other was not interested at seven months.
    I agree with Jacki, children will naturally reach out for food when they are ready, and all children are different in their weaning.
    Make sure you get enough calories and water. In my experience we need a lot more energy, when we breastfeed.
    Personally, I was drawn towards Avocados much more when feeding.
    If you are new to the diet, you may find that you are eliminating a bit, which could decrease your milk supply. Personally, I feel that breastfeeding is not the ideal time to be eliminating.
    Also try to make sure that you get enough rest, very important for breastfeeding mums.
    In addition, listen to your own body and its needs; especially when breastfeeding: your body knows what it needs. Nobody else does!

    Good denser breastfeeding foods for mum, if you don't want fatty fruits include Jackfruit, Sapodilla, all the Sapotes, fresh Figs, fresh Dates, Astringent Persimmon, Custard Apples and fresh Durian.

    Wishing you all the best.
    Love and peace XX.
    http://mums.In/
    • I've read that the fat content of breatmilk is not related to how much fat the mother consumes. Generally milk has basically the same nutrient breakdown no matter what you eat, but if you eat poorly then the nutrients will come from your body's reserves.

      My son wasn't interested in food at all until 9 months or so, and even then it wasn't like an every day kind of thing. I never prepared special foods for him, he just ate whatever he could of what I was eating (oatmeal, banana, soup, mashed potatoes, etc.).
      • My daughter is 18 months old and I had to wean her at 1yr due to medical reasons. I am having trouble getting her to eat just raw and I am just not willing to have her not eat for three or four days just to fulfill my expectations of a healthy diet. She shows some interest in raw food but it really fluctuates - has anyone got any advice? She won't drink smoothies of any kind, if anything is green she refuses to even taste it - I am really at my wits end with it, so I have stopped trying to push her into something she obviously doesn't want to do. She will eat raw hummus, dried fruit, some nuts/ crackers etc.
        • Asha,

          Dont force your child to eat anything. All eating should come naturally to children. Try focusing on soft fruits like bananas, melons, mangoes, avocadoes. If she is not having breastmilk she will need higher fat content foods, like avocadoes, young coconut meat (not the mature coconut meat!), durian etc. Don't push greens on her. Calories are the priority for her now. Focus on getting the foods she likes inside her and let the rest come naturally.

          Take care

          Adam x
        • hi Asha ~

          I would make a separate post about this in the general chat section...this section doesn't get much readership and you could get a lot more help there. that sounds really hard, i am needing some more help as well but my babe still likes a lot of raw. she actually even loves plain lettuce, i think it's the texture more than anything...have you tried giving her just plain greens? my biggest advice is to go on the veg source board and ask dr. graham. if you then feel like you want more of a response from him or some coaching maybe you could get a private session with him. i am planning on doing that soon as well. good luck and don't give up. but more than anything please don't feel guilty for doing what you feel you have to do!!!

          oh yeah, something that i've found to be a wonderful supplement to breast milk is coconut water. if you live somewhere there is a decent health food store see if they carry the Body Ecology organic raw coconut water in the freezer. if not you can order it online. it's great and you feel great knowing it's toxin free. my daughter now drinks about 6-8oz. most days. if she wasn't getting milk she would drink a lot more i'm sure. i truly believe it's the best substitute as far as liquids goes. to make it more like a formula you could actually blend it with nuts or seeds that work for her, bananas, or their young coconut jelly. nut milk made with this is wonderful because it is sweet without adding a concentrated sweetner.

          i would love to know how this progresses for you!

          love and blessings ~
          *anya
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