What greens are best and which are worst?
Is there a list of this somewhere?
I know spinach and other cruciferous veggies are not good.
Is spinach really even worse than regular lettuce?
Still from my understanding it seems the only that are good are lettuces? Are there any darker greens that are good? What about Arugula, is this also not recommended?
Also from my understanding mustard greens are cruciferous yet I have seen those recommended at one point.
**A non vegan has asked me to help him be vegan, right a sort of a diet plan so this is really important. Please answer if you are aware.
All possible love and blessings to everyone!!!!
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you would have to eat crazy amount of spinach to arrive to the point to have a problem with oxalic acid.
Actually spinach has a lot of iron and vitamins that are so good for your body. Just don't exceed on anything. A good amount and variety of greens will keep you safe and healthy.
Greens are amazing and alkalizing!!
Ignore lists. As stated by Ria Rainbow all greens are good. I would eat a variety of greens. If you don't like the taste of a particular green there is no need to eat it as there are plenty of choices.
hahha. Yeah...Thanks!
Regarding assisting your non vegan friend to become vegan I would be to try to keep the advice simple.
Your friend should learn at the start to make meals that are quick and simple but also healthy, cheep and delicious. For instance banana and peanut butter on wholemeal bread. These sort of meals are foods that most people like, regardless if they are vegan or not.
As your friend becomes used to and increasingly comfortable as a vegan the range of simple meals will expand until your friend realizes there are a great range of options.
Highlight to your friend the huge range of choices from the follow macro categories;
Fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds.
Thanks for the advice, Peter! I know it has been so long since I replied - and been on this site so my *true apologies* ! But I really appreciate it!!!
you'll find many answers in here:
Benefits of Lettuce Greens
Do I need to eat greens?
What kind of greens and how much?
Why do I need to eat lettuce greens?
Oxalate Health Impact
What are oxalates and oxalic acid?
How can oxalates harm us?
What foods are high in oxalates?
Oh wow this really helps, thanks so much!!! If I can ask you, for someone who is a newby, coming off a standard american diet... And already taking in a lot of info about veganism, do you feel this second link is too overwhelming to share with them?
Also can I ask you, a person who eats high carb low fat vegan, with potatoes, small amounts of beans and sweet potatoes as their main calorie source, like every day - no grains or other cooked foods, with a small amount of fruit, peppers as almost the only veggie, and rather a lot of orange juice........ then developing severe urinary problems. How likely to do you think it would be the high oxalates in their food that has caused the urinary problem. If you have any idea about this.
In general yes, I would be particular about what to share with a newbie. Think of it like medical triage--you'd treat the head wound before the dislocated shoulder before the torn off fingernail.
When re-learning an entire lifestyle of eating, the priority is eating vegan, which in itself often doesn't happen 100% over night. It can be a process. After that we start to fine-tune, focusing on whole foods as opposed to processed ones. Unless there is a specific health reason to beware of oxalates, minimizing their presence in the diet is simply polishing an already strong foundation. For somebody learning from scratch, simply including plenty of greens that they like, regardless of oxalate content, would be a win IMO.
Honestly, I do not have a broad knowledge base regarding the urinary tract, but the person who wrote those blogs I shared, PK, does. I would contact her directly, and be patient waiting for a reply due to a very busy schedule and only periodic visits here.
Looking at the diet you describe, improvements I would recommend would be greatly expanding the consumption of fresh fruit. Fruit should always be the basis of the carb-rich diet, with cooked starches second best.
Orange juice makes a nice treat, and you don't mention whether it is fresh (far better than bottled), but I would keep it to a minimum, if for no other reason than the vital fiber is greatly reduced. By all means eat or blend a bunch of peeled oranges whole to retain all the goodness.
Since veggies are very low, I'd bump them up primarily with tender leafy lettuce-type greens, even up to 5% of total daily cals.
Hope this helps, Sateah!
Hello dear Winlord. I truly thank you once again for sharing!!!
SO sorry to not respond to your comment!! I did see awhile ago, and then didn't respond and forgot to come back on here and do so, like jerk!!! ugh. So thank you SO much once again for your help!!! And yes it helps greatly! * * <3
Thanks most infinitely for letting me know all of this, Winlord!!! Yes it helps & So sorry to not respond sooner! - have great difficulties getting online much of the time, even though I forgot to log out.
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