I've been cycling for 10-12 months, Durianrider talks about things like avoiding high intensity training until you have atleast 5 years (I think) of serious training, but he also talks about using cycling as your primary method of transportation. I want a lifestyle like that someday soon. I have no idea how to get more and more fit without running into problems, within a day I always eat allot, I mean allot, but the more I eat the more I want to do, and I like to go fast everywhere I go, I like really high energy riding, and I like to challenge myself now and then. It doesn't take long before I start questioning wether or not I'm going too hard that week, but I also wan't to keep it up. Things get fucking confusing to say the least.Here's some info that might matterI have no freindsI have never treid to train my athletic fitness before, (no sports or anything less me that in my past).I eat the most at night, sometimes half daily my calories are eaten at night as starch.

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  • Overtraining is pushing yourself past your limits so much that you actually start to lose fitness. One can work up to a fitness level where they can go 5 hours per day and not overtrain, but if someone who just started a year or two ago tried to frain for 5 hours per day for 6 months then they would be over trained and would be suffering. It is much easier to get injured when overstrained, and that is often a sign of overtraining.

    Burning out is much different. It is where you do something for so long that you lose interest. You keep doing it, even e lost interest in it and you get to a point where you just don't want to do it anymore but you still force yourself to do it because it was fun in the past and you're good at it. Then you get to the point where you can't do it because your urge not to do it is so strong that you just quit and move on to something else.

    Just go really hard once or twice per week and take the rest at a casual talking pace. That's the best way to train for the long term and to avoid overtraining
    • Thanks man, You're definition of burning out is exactly how I thought of it. I and I think it's been closer to that in that I have no freinds, which I've been starting to work on.
  • I'm no athlete myself and I've been riding everyday with at least 15-30miles a day. At first I thought I was overdoing it riding everyday and I like going fast too and it's easy to do when you're riding with traffic. But I haven't burned out cuz I have a power meter to gauge my riding. Riding at 90cadence under 200watts is what Durianrider recommends for recovery rides and it's what I aim for when I'm out riding. Less lactic acid build up and I can go cycling everyday.
    • Exactly the kind of advice o was looking for, thank man.
  • In my opinion over-training is a symptom of not eating enough or going all in with something and wasting yourself to make it happen, be it a sprint to win a race, doing something dangerous to avoid getting ran over, or almost dying due to pushing yourself too hard in the gym without a spotter.
    If you're eating enough and not physically pushing yourself to muscular failure, odds are you aren't over-training.

    Burning out is usually due to either ignoring the fact that you overtrained, or improperly doing the whole sleep water sugar bit. In other words, if you didn't smash yourself you likely are either dehydrated, underslept, or undercarbed.

    Just continue smashing in the calories and biking as much as you please, if you're hurting or tired or whatever it may be, take however long off to feel fully repaired. Then do it again. You'll get there.

    • Holy crap I forgot, yeah, I never got the sleep water sugar part down for long, and when I did have it down I was nocturnal and unemployed (last job was night shift), so I never had it all down to a T. Now I have a 40hr Monday-Friday morning job and get up before 6:00am, live 14.7km from work, it's all perfect, I have everything I need. I need to somehow learn to stop holding on to each day (I never get to bed on time every night.)
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