I was at the dentist a few weeks ago and he established that I have a cavity in one of my wisdom teeth. It had already reached the dentin so he said that the growth of the cavity couldn't be stopped or reversed. He said it would have to be extracted because he wouldn't be able to fill the cavity since the tooth is awkwardly located. I asked him what happens if I let the cavity continue without doing anything and he said that within half a year to a year I will start to have a horrible tooth ache.

I wonder how animals i nature deal with cavities. I guess it happens occasionally and what can they do except letting the tooth rot out? Not saying it wouldn't be a painful experience, but I still wonder if it would be a viable option for a human in today's society? Then I wouldn't have to bother paying money and time extracting the tooth, and possibly damage from the extracting.

So, is it possible to let a tooth with a cavity to just rot out out if itself (has anyone done that before?), or should I just get the tooth extracted? It's in the upper jaw so supposedly it should be easy, but I have heard about different, sometimes unpleasant, experiences. What are your experiences with extracting wisdom teeth, especially ones in the upper jaw?

Is it possible that the cavity will cause other trouble if left untreated? Could it spread infection to the gum or other teeth or cause other long term problems?

Or do you think it's possible to stop the cavity process even if it's reached the dentin, with a fruit based diet? I currently eat 30-100% raw, averaging about 50%. I've found that my teeth get less sensitive when I don't eat acidic fruits like citrus, apples, grapes, so I can't choose much other than dates, bananas, pears, and melon in summer. I also eat about 300-500g of romaine/iceberg/cosmopolitan lettuce each day.

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  • As someone who's now had all their wisdom teeth removed, I'm curious as to why you wouldn't just get it taken out.  Is it wise to leave something that's rotting inside your head?  The bacteria count from that would be huge: have you read about the connection between oral bacteria/hygiene and things like heart attacks and even miscarriages?  There's really strong evidence showing how damaging the constant seeping of oral bacteria is to your entire body's health.  I'd get it out ASAP!

    Upper removal is a breeze compared with lower (though of course, every case is different) and you can treat the extraction site with natural products (colloidal silver, salt water etc) so you don't have to take loads of chemicals, if that's your concern.

    • Thank you. I started to read more about it, and I will continue to read a bit more and make up my mind. I came across this site though, which challenges the claims you highlighted http://www.healingteethnaturally.com/cavities-left-untreated.html. If you don't mind, it would be interesting to hear someone else's opinion on that article. Could you perhaps also reference the strong evidence you mention? I've seen it on several sites, but not any scientific studies yet (haven't looked very carefully though).

      • One of the testimonials of this article mentions how bad fluoride is and I agree.  Watch Dr. Russell Blaylocks talk on fluoride, he covers it all. Bottom line is to  stay far away from it.  Your dentist has been brainwashed in pharma run medical school. 

        • I think the testimonials are interesting.  I know Hal Huggins DDS would test materials for bio-compatibility and in some instances there would not be one material that would not cause a reaction in a patient.  So in this case he would drill out all the decay and leave the tooth with the hole.  Then the patient would be very conscientious with their oral hygiene.   If I were in your shoes I would definitely consider doing that.  Cavities often form under filling material, so the only real function of filling material is to make the tooth look whole and provide an even chewing surface.  The water drill or laser drill both only take out the decay without touching the good tooth, do not use a traditional metal drill.

          Another story I read is a man who had an infected root canal and his dentist drilled a hole to the root and left it.  The patient then used a syringe to shoot food grade hydrogen peroxide mouth wash into the hole every day.  He said it was working great, no pain and a functional tooth.  Not that this applies in your case but food for thought. 

          • Oh ya, and Freelee had all of her fillings fall out and never replaced them and they have remained free of decay, so there is a very good example that makes me think I would just drill out the decay and leave it.  

            • Could you link to where she says that? 

            • Ah!  Ednshell, this is great to know.  Thanks for sharing.

      • Firstly, just so you know, I'm very much pro-natural healing, so I would love for there to be a natural solution to all heath problems, including teeth.  

        I'm afraid I don't have the info to hand.  I don't know much about teeth at all, I just researched it (to death!) when my wisdom teeth started giving me problems a few years ago, and was left in no doubt of the right way to go (for me).

        The article you've linked doesn't do anything to convince me that leaving rotting teeth in your head is a sensible idea.  I've scanned it quickly.  Firstly, it is predominantly concerned with the life-risking consequences of high bacteria count in your mouth, and makes (anecdotal) assurances that this is unlikely, without fully delving into the other, chronic, insidious consequences that could occur.  I take no comfort from the claims of all those millions of Germans not dying from rotting teeth - how was their health otherwise?  Simply not being dead isn't a great assurance.  Leave the tooth in but pump yourself full of chemicals should pain management be a requirement?  Great.

        "In other words, according to Dr. Hendrickson, in this day and age the occurrence of a life-threatening abscess will be an absolute rarity....... anti-inflammatories, painkillers and antibiotics within easy reach, will give bacteria a hard time (rather than the other way round)."

        Potential, lower-level health issues are simply written off as again being unlikely - if you're a herb-munching, detoxing, urine-swishing, health nut - but are vaguely acknowledged as being a possibility if you're not.

        "A body and mouth that is optimally supported by nutrition, regular detoxification, immune-supporting herbs and/or supplements, natural antibiotics, a stress-free lifestyle, oral urine treatment etc. etc. seems much equipped to deal with dental toxins of various origins. A body and mouth which do not receive proper support may be less able to contain and successfully overcome virulent dental infections."

        Is the urine-swishing essential to the regime in order to prevent rotting teeth from causing health problems?  I guess it must be if it's been highlighted.  So what - leave your rotting fang in your mouth but rinse with your pee after brushing and all will be fine?  I know urine therapy is touted in many circles, but I'm not buying it, on any level, in any way.  What exactly in the urine helps?

        Where's the science to all this?  Where are the studies?  What are all the "etc. etc." in the protocol? Where's the detail?  How does the urine help?  How many people in this day and age truly have excellent immune systems?

        What's your take on this article? 

        • Good points. I wish I could find research about instances of animals and humans who have left cavities untreated. I am still worried about the potential consequences of extracting a tooth, even though most people report of uncomplicated experiences. But I guess I'll have to take the safe route and extract the tooth.

          • I know, it's frustrating.

            Please come back and update us either way, the more complete testimonials/real life examples we have on this site the better.

            Good luck buddy!

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