How My Mother Failed as 'HCV'

Kalin Iliev Kalaydzhiev January 26, 2014 at 7:45am

Why weren't you there to give her advice? And if she doesn't want to take it from you, show her doctors who say you don't need to calorie restrict on a high-carb, low fat vegan diet.

carine martine January 25, 2014 at 4:03am

a son/ daughter

a father/mother

a husband/wife

should we value some bonds ?! loathe ?1

Eva L > carine martine January 25, 2014 at 12:04pm

That's definitely a personal decision. I was "lucky" in that social norms never seemed to make sense to me and, by the age of 7, I was already self-censoring myself to only say stuff that didn't label me as "weirdo" more than I already was. *grin*

While it seems I may have chosen to isolate myself, I genuinely couldn't tolerate being around people I had to hide the real *me* from and it certainly wasn't intentional; it was simply too painful to deal with them. On graduation day in high school, my two best friends revealed they didn't understand what I was talking about 75% of the time because I was a huge reader of great minds who wanted fairness for all populating the world and they were still reading Teen Beat.

I am consciously choosing to live by my own moral code and that doesn't always agree with what family and friends have been conditioned to believe.

My take on bonds is that it's a form of bondage when one is suffering under them. I left my family behind and haven't spoken to them for easily 15 years. My aunt tried making contact last year and I only lasted 6 emails because her mindset hadn't expanded from the time we last spoke.

I'm so incredibly lucky that my husband is super open-minded and we're together 24/7 so he understands where I'm coming from. He doesn't agree with everything I say (which is super-fine!) but doesn't dismiss me as a crazy nutter (which is super-wonderful). All the other amazing people in my life have been vetted over time and I enjoy my time with them. Isolation doesn't frighten me as an alternative, which helps. *grin*
- Vincenzi > Eva L January 26, 2014 at 6:33am
  
  What books would you recommend? You rock.
  - Eva L > Vincenzi January 26, 2014 at 10:28am
    
    In school, I'd have the English literature books assigned in class for the quarter finished within a week or two, so I read everything I could lay my hands on. *grin* I even had a subscription to Time magazine of my own, lol. Phil Donahue (especially his Ralph Nader episodes!) was "must-see TV" before I hit my teens.
    
    The ideas that resonated with me the most championed the cause of freedom from tyranny and stimulated the need for independence and personal responsibility: Dumas, Voltaire, 1800s American authors and even Stephen King was a favourite. I had (have) a HUGE interest in self-sufficiency and pored over the Real Goods catalog with more excitement than the Sears (& Roebuck) Wish Book. My mom and I even took a road trip to Ukiah, CA from Houston just to look at electric vehicles first-hand, in the early 90s. When I left the US, I donated 28 boxes of books to the local library and still had 2 6' x 6' bookcases full of the books I couldn't bear to part with just in case I could figure out how to have them shipped to Australia.
    
    The 1700-1800s were incredible times on the planet for revolutionary ideas and clearly showed me how far the US had diverged from the original intentions of the founding fathers. Of course, people didn't want to hear that because "USA is the best" was the mantra. All I was asking was "wouldn't you like it better?".
    
    I was introduced to a lot of "conspiracy theory" ideas when I was 17 (around 1982) by a workmate and it seemed like I was the only one concerned with our continually-eroding freedoms in my circle of family and friends. It was the time of a huge Love America or Leave It campaign, so that didn't help, lol. Yeah, I voted for Ross Perot. *grin*
    
    30 years later, I laugh with incredulity (because I'm not in the US) that an attitude common in the 70s & 80s was that the Soviet govt is crap but the people are wonderful. Now, the world is saying it about AMERICA!
    
    My mom & dad were immigrants and I was the first-born American on both sides of the family. I was raised to adore the ideals of the best country in the world. Like a jilted lover, I was crushed to realize how easy voluntary enslavement was to engineer on a willing, if not enthusiastic, populace.
    
    For eas(ier) access to early books that dealt with these ideas, including Natural Hygiene, I discovered the Soil & Health Library last year. Most books are downloadable but I paid the lifetime subscription of $10 for full access. My mind was blown to find that NH was more prolific in the early to mid-1800s than allopathic medicine. The "evolved" ideas we're embracing 200 years later were common until the Civil War. Then industrialization and the power of production lines were marketed as sophisticated and made processed food plentiful. After a huge germ scare in the early 1900s, cooked was deemed best and many people were actually frightened to eat fresh food.
    
    The new frontier that fills me with a gazillion gallons of relief is Quantum Physics for those who prefer their info with lots of testing and scientific lingo. Quantum Physics, as far as I'm concerned, is the magic wand many of us wished for to right our personal worlds. For those who actually want to put it into practice, my life has changed for the better (& is only getting better!) with reading Louise Hay, Abraham-Hicks and Neville Goddard.
    
    That's good for a start. *grin*

Eva L January 25, 2014 at 1:03am

I'm old(er) and I try to be more forgiving. *grin"

Every "failure" is just one more learning experience. Sometimes we get it straight away, sometimes it takes one more bit of information or just the right amount of fear of pain to spur us on to do it right after numerous attempts. And there will always be people who choose habitual discomfort over the magical unknown.

Because there is soooo much disinformation out there, it's hard to know who to trust. Hey, I'll admit I did Atkins for a month in 1998 (my gall bladder gave out after a month, lucky me!, and I fell off the wagon). And then there's all the sensationalism that surrounds "weight gain = stupid" out in the reality of the conformist world. I truly feel more sympathy for those who can't get it together when trying any diet and applaud them for giving it a go.

I have not convinced one person to go 80/10/10. They either ignore it, despite so many aspects of my health recovering in much less than 30 days, or call me lucky. The few who genuinely ARE interested want to debate me. I am soooo over debate that I just direct them to the book and encourage them to make a firm commitment to try it to the letter for one month. Still, no takers and the only person who bought the book still wants to debate me on cooked food being really "that bad" for him. Not my problem. We have books and videos and information literally free for the taking if one is truly inspired. There has never been a time in history where we have all the knowledge of the Universe at our fingertips.

This isn't just about diet or lifestyle. It's a mindset and most people are conditioned to listen to authority figures with capital letters after their name or important titles. (I put gobbledy-gook letters behind my name on a business card for a joke and strangers at events DID treat me differently because of it, go figure!) There's just enough truth thrown out there about everything to confuse the masses about which parts are lies. And few have the necessary self-preservation mindset that is an unstoppable force to figuring it out. People are too tired from working or worrying or whatever they think life is supposed to be about to spend the years it takes to wake up. It's just easier to go along to get along.

One woman I know is so convinced that only doctors can cure her that she's been in pain over 60 years, from childhood, from head (her jaw is screwed up) to her toes (her knees and ankles are in constant pain). She's proud of the "healthy" diet she eats which has no name, just good home cooking. I'm jaw-droppingly flabbergasted at the procedures she's endured (like a badge of honour!) rather than eat a box load of bananas. In February, she's getting tubes put down her throat and up her butt at the same time to try to figure out her digestion woes. Sadder still, it's not the first time.

There comes a point (for me) where it's just not worth the effort to save a sheeple. If someone asks, I'm happy to share. If I see a glimmer of open-mindedness, I share. If it's ignored, I shut up because I know they have enough information to start their own search for their own truth when, and if, they're ready.

If a person has to be led by the nose, held by the hand every step of the way, they're going to need baby-sitting forever. This isn't rocket science. They just have to take the leap of faith and give this a genuine try.

I'm definitely not saying I have all, or even any, of the answers (although if I were Queen of the world... hint: Russell Brand would be my chief advisor *grin*). I do know that there are lots of questions that need asking, though, and few people, percentage-wise, are asking them RIGHT NOW. But the numbers of answer seekers are growing day by day - YAY! Fortunately, all it takes to start things rolling is 100 monkeys and that's all it takes to turn things around. Thank goodness, I will NEVER get tired of bananas. *grin*

Vanilla23 > Eva L January 25, 2014 at 11:22am

WORD! You speak so much truth!

Even friends who trust you are hard to be convinced for a try. We must understand, that it has been a life-long habit to eat and think the way we do or used to. Habits are hard to break and it takes more to it than most people are prepared to do. Also the authorities in health care are still too much looked up at, almost like gurus. I even experience myself that sometimes I start doubting, thinking: They done so much research and must know better. It can't be so easy after all. Look you have problems switching over completely yourself. Why is that? Mightn't this be some kind of hint from my body trying to tell me, that is it not right? All this raw food stuff could be an internet hoax after all, couldn't it? So by this experience of my own I can understand when people say: Every season new diets, new products, new theories about nutrition. People are sick and tired of all the information all the theories set up and torn down, replaced by new ones over and over again. What to believe after all? I am searching for truth and also for proof.

Actually I for myself have been searching not only for myself but for solutions to a lot of problems in the world, which I am not affected directly but which bother me, e.g. wars, poverty, diseases, animal and people suffering, pollution.

I still have to accept that I cannot change any of these problems directly but I can at least stem parts of it in the way that I am no longer involved. I am no longer a person asking for animal products, they will never ever again get paid for animal abuse and slaughter from my purse. I used to think: But this is not enough. They will not even spare one pig or one cow because I don't buy any more meat. On the other hand even small changes will add to the great big picture eventually!

I must say that I am not 100% raw yet, but have been vegan for almost 2 years. I still have to learn to do this lifestyle properly. Sometimes I struggle in communication with others. For example my bf sometimes says it appears to him like brainwash or he feels I act like one of Jehova's Witnesses, when I keep repeating the facts or telling about people overcoming bad illnesses. It is probably my fault and I am not doing it right to motivate him. But I am willing to learn and just like you I come to the point that I am always prepared to tell but wouldn't start any arguments myself in the first place, neither try to convince anybody who doesn't want to hear about it. And I do agree that for anybody this is a process and we shouldn't judge too hard on others that need their time to come to the points we might have already passed. And we have to face that there will be lots of people staying ignorant their whole lives and we will never manage to influence them. So what? Do not concentrate on what is going wrong only, but also consider what is o.k. and give the good things energy by your appreciation!

In other words: After all I see a good chance that our awareness and behaviour will affect others in the long term. The more fruit-eaters we become the more our mindset will affect others. In psychology theory of C.G. Jung there is something he calls the "collective unconscious" which we all are connected to and somehow influencedby, of course not definitely knowing or being aware of. But in my belief this is key and all of our efforts will add to this „cloud“ of collective unconscious. This is apart from what we are able to perceive additionally working for us somehow „in the underground“.
- Eva L > Vanilla23 January 25, 2014 at 12:46pm
  
  You said: "Actually I for myself have been searching not only for myself but for solutions to a lot of problems in the world, which I am not affected directly but which bother me, e.g. wars, poverty, diseases, animal and people suffering, pollution."
  
  You and me, both! The wonderful part is that we already have the technology which can improve the lot of most, if not all, people of the world. Check out Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project. Be sure to explore the sidebar videos. He's a hero, to me.
  
  Now, we just have to wait for the dinosaurs to get outnumbered by the thoughtful and the world is everyone's, as it should be. *grin* Mindsets *are* changing and evolving. There is more concern over the planet and the plight of others than ever.

Sophia S January 24, 2014 at 11:16pm

Gained 10-15 pounds and still have it on after over A YEAR (huge difference for a short former thin person). Yes, the excess water weight sucks as it feels like fat and I still have fear and insecurities almost EVERYDAY, but the only thing that's keeping me being 811 HCV is the fact that there is no other alternative. What's more dangerous is the toxins in my body that caused the fluid retention.

Joseph Glover > Sophia S January 25, 2014 at 5:53am

Sometimes I talk to my belly saying 'I will give you all the food you need *nom nom nom* see, I would never lie to you...you know you don't need that fat *eh hem*'

I don't know if it works but it is worth the try =)

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