Posted by AndiR on February 15, 2016 at 2:37pm in Science
My Aunt has been trying to get her health in check and even sought help from a nutritionist. Of course she was put on a low carb diet with even the recommendation of eating very little fruit. My husband and I have been trying her to encourage her to try going plant based but it's been hard for her to do when she has been losing weight, her blood pressure is down and her cholesterol is down. Does anyone have any information, videos or research to show her why she may be getting good results right now but that it won't continue long term?
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It's possible her weight loss is due to ketosis. It's hard to say. Ketosis is caused by eating mostly protein and almost nothing else. It can work in the short term and causes health problems over time. Just a thought without knowing more.
It works for lots of things like acne, weight loss, high blood pressure, but it is definitely not sustainable nor healthy. I was there for over two months and went from a decent 115 to 104 in two months, lost a ton of muscle and fitness gains, and had to regain it all back plus some. I'm about 118 with less muscle and more fat, but it's minuscule. Give it time. She will crash hard and have a realization that it isn't good or she will start using stims and die within a few years. I couldn't run despite eating 3000 calories per day, my blood pressure was 110/70, but my cholesterol was 350. I was 17. She WILL rebound 100% unless you smash in carbs and get lean as in front of her and lead by example.
Tell her to watch the documentary sugar vs fat. low carb seems good in the short term because people can see fast results, but it's not good. I was low carb and my muscles wasted away due to ketones, like what happened in sugar vs fat, I couldn't think, I had no energy, lost weight off my already small frame too much too fast and all my other levels dropped dangerously low. I have naturally low blood pressure and it went from 95/something to less than 70/something, so it's not so much healthier as your body going into panic mode and shutting down because it has no fuel. If you start from higher, you have further to fall before you hit the ground.
A dietitian I met put it well by saying how your body actually needs carbs, in the end it all breaks down into carbs chemically and it's just what form it starts in, how much effort is put into it and how long it takes. your body, deprived of carbs, will literally eat itself to try to make the carbs or get the carbs it needs to digest protein/fat into carbs.
Tell her to consider a vegan balanced traditional diet?? anything's better than low carb meat eating.
My thought is a lot of these low-carbers just eat less calories. They eat low sugar/high fat. The fat is satiating and so they end up calorie restricting for the day hence the weight loss. The sugar/fat combo of most 'normal' diets is terrible and so when they do anything other than this, they feel better and have better numbers. If they have will-power they can sustain the diet for a certain amount of time but it won't last. Not many people have the will-power to fight against our desire/need for sugar, for long. I wonder what her mood is like/what she is like to be around on her current diet...
Aside from showing by example & what others have mentioned, I can't really think of anything more you can do to really have an impact. The reason she's (appearing to) getting "healthier" eating low carb and likely tons of meat is because she is losing weight. When you lose weight your cholesterol and blood pressure often naturally drop. If she switched to a plant-based diet it would drop more, and quicker, however eating garbage will make the numbers look better if they're losing (fat) weight. You could try mentioning that to her.
You can eat anything to improve your numbers, and your theoretical health, although it doesn't exactly reflect your actual health, as you'll likely be taking in more hormones and extra-bad fats, as well as omega-ratios, while on a low-carb diet, as well as lacking fiber. Basically, it'll improve your health regardless if you lose weight, but eating tons of fat and meat will ruin her health in other areas more.
I would get her the book The China Study so she can read about how animal protein is a huge factor in getting cancer. Of course all the other reasons not to eat meat apply.
Why is she getting healthier with her new diet? My guess is she cut out lots of bad stuff from her diet. Also eating high sugar and high fat causes all kinds of problems. With eating low glycemic she surely has better blood sugar stability than when she was eating high fat and high sugar.
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Researches show that low carb diets are associated with higher all causes mortality.
how did you lose weight on low carb by eating 3k calories? Low carb requires you to fast all the time,
did they give her drugs? it could be the drugs. Low carb doesn't work. Never has. It's a placebo effect
Tell her to watch the documentary sugar vs fat. low carb seems good in the short term because people can see fast results, but it's not good. I was low carb and my muscles wasted away due to ketones, like what happened in sugar vs fat, I couldn't think, I had no energy, lost weight off my already small frame too much too fast and all my other levels dropped dangerously low. I have naturally low blood pressure and it went from 95/something to less than 70/something, so it's not so much healthier as your body going into panic mode and shutting down because it has no fuel. If you start from higher, you have further to fall before you hit the ground.
A dietitian I met put it well by saying how your body actually needs carbs, in the end it all breaks down into carbs chemically and it's just what form it starts in, how much effort is put into it and how long it takes. your body, deprived of carbs, will literally eat itself to try to make the carbs or get the carbs it needs to digest protein/fat into carbs.
Tell her to consider a vegan balanced traditional diet?? anything's better than low carb meat eating.
My thought is a lot of these low-carbers just eat less calories. They eat low sugar/high fat. The fat is satiating and so they end up calorie restricting for the day hence the weight loss. The sugar/fat combo of most 'normal' diets is terrible and so when they do anything other than this, they feel better and have better numbers. If they have will-power they can sustain the diet for a certain amount of time but it won't last. Not many people have the will-power to fight against our desire/need for sugar, for long. I wonder what her mood is like/what she is like to be around on her current diet...
Aside from showing by example & what others have mentioned, I can't really think of anything more you can do to really have an impact.
The reason she's (appearing to) getting "healthier" eating low carb and likely tons of meat is because she is losing weight. When you lose weight your cholesterol and blood pressure often naturally drop. If she switched to a plant-based diet it would drop more, and quicker, however eating garbage will make the numbers look better if they're losing (fat) weight. You could try mentioning that to her.
You can eat anything to improve your numbers, and your theoretical health, although it doesn't exactly reflect your actual health, as you'll likely be taking in more hormones and extra-bad fats, as well as omega-ratios, while on a low-carb diet, as well as lacking fiber.
Basically, it'll improve your health regardless if you lose weight, but eating tons of fat and meat will ruin her health in other areas more.
I would get her the book The China Study so she can read about how animal protein is a huge factor in getting cancer. Of course all the other reasons not to eat meat apply.
Why is she getting healthier with her new diet? My guess is she cut out lots of bad stuff from her diet. Also eating high sugar and high fat causes all kinds of problems. With eating low glycemic she surely has better blood sugar stability than when she was eating high fat and high sugar.
You can start with this.
http://nutritionfacts.org/?s=Atkinson
And these posts from this site to get you started. I'm sure there are a lot of posters that will add to this.
Past 30Bad posts on Atkins.
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topic/search?q=atkins
Past posts on 30Bad on Paleo.
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topic/search?q=paleo