Hello everybody,
As some of you know, I started my LFRV journey about 4 weeks ago. I’m eating 2500 calories a day from juicy fruit mostly and also bananas, dates and greens, I’m sleeping 8-9 hours, training 6 days a week, getting lots of sun and loving my life, yay!:D
Last Monday I had a huge arugula salad with no dressing and some lightly steamed courgettes (zucchini) and sweet potatos with a bit of spices and a pinch of cold pressed olive oil for dinner. This was my first overt and cooked meal since the 1st of January.
I know what Dr. Douglas Graham says about oil, but in Spain we use extra virgin olive oil for EVERYTHING, and you are brainwashed from childhood that olive oil is the healthiest thing ever. So, I have to admit that I love the taste and that I still have to fight the brainwashing back :)
The thing is that I ate the steamed courgettes and potatoes feeling wonderful about it. I was still around 8% of fat that day and I really enjoyed it. On the morning after I felt no bad symptoms whatsoever, I woke up really happy and energetic and I trained as usual. From that day, I have been again 100% LFRV with joy and a strong sense of achievement. For me, to eat some cooked food was a natural and spontaneous thing and by no means I feel bad or “guilty” about it as I don’t see it as a slip at all. I feel like this is a path I am walking and when I see the big picture I get to feel really proud and happy of the good work I am doing. I have also realized that when I take things naturally and I get to see the success part in everything I do, life is so much easier and fulfilling.
I red Tarah and Kyndra’s posts today and I got mixed feelings. I plan to stick with this lifestyle for the rest of my life, BUT…if I stay 6 months 100% LFRV and I eat some salt or cooked food will I feel so terrible about it (physically, mentally and emotionally)? Do I really want such a sensitive body? Is it really that bad to have a LFCV meal every now and then? Am I missing something?
Thank you for reading such a long post! I am so happy to be able to share this with you all!
Cheers!!
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Mark,
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Garth,
This is a reminder that you are on 30bananasaday which is a low-fat raw vegan forum. 30BAD has a policy on pro-cooked food talk. You agreed to read forum guidelines and notes before posting when you signed up here. Please take a look at these links.
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The Peacekeepers
Your words are so profound Garth. I am a bit speechless, now!
You said something very interesting for me; the truth is I don't want to worry about food anymore and I am amazed as for the first time in my life, food is not that important and eating is becoming a really natural action. I am also aware of so many other things that are happening in front of my eyes everyday. I am reaching that point through a raise of my own concioussnes. And the more I love myself, the more I can love others and the more I can give, and the brighter life is. And it is so true that this lifestyle is the catalyst...I just wish everyone could get this clarity of mind and soul and heart.
Thank you
Thank you for your encouragment Jeffrey :) I love your profile pic, it seems like you're having a lot of fun and that you are very fit!
The truth is that I didn't feel like I had a slow digestion or anything. It was fo sure a little slower that when I have a fruit mono-meal but nothing to get worried about...how long have you been 100% lfrv?
Its a bit like saying 'I dont want to work in my dream job cos if I get fired or the company goes bust then I might have to do something that Im less passionate about!"
We know its just a lame ass excuse to justify our complacency. Eat what you want at the end of the day but understand why it happend: undereating fruit.
Ive done my experimentation and have found that super fit people will push out second rate food choices a lot quicker than sedentary people. Ive done my experimentation and have to say without doubt that fruit is the number one calorie choice for humans and that eating cooked starches is better than starving yourself.
wow.. doesn't sound fun.. good advice!
20 years ago or so I spent a few solid years junk food vegan while in college and had very similar reactions after having some lasagna with sausage...
I am reading the Pleasure Trap at the moment, where the authors talk about the different dopamine levels that different foods give us. Salty and oily as well as unsalty and unoily but cooked and thus dense foods are way higher on the ladder than pure and unaltered fruits and vegetables. So, whenever you are taking in some salt or oil or cooked food, you are resetting your set-point, and foods that cause lower dopamine responses will taste bland and boring. Thus i think it is simply easier to reset your dopamine scale to one type of substances. It is similar to smoking. How many smokers do we know who can have an occasional cigarette? I know none! Sure, there are the occasional smokers, but they were never truly hooked. And we all were truly hooked on cooked foods. So i guess if i were someone who was raw all her life, and had an occasional cooked meal, i could deal with it better than as an ex-addict.
So, i say, for the sanity of my neurotransmitter balance, i better cut the c$&p out completely!
Agreed. Food does not heal you it is your mind that heals you. If your BELIEF is that cooked food will hurt you then it will follow. Vice Versa.
If it is your BELIEF that you have to work really hard to make just a little money then that is what you will experience.
People read other's posts and declare "I believe that as ultimate truuuuuuuth!" Then it is proven by it happening that same way. And we think "See, (blank) is a bad food!" - but it was not the food per se, it was the CONVICTION you had in your belief that the effect would surely be "bad".
If a person is happy to believe that strict raw 811 is the most important key to health then that person will gain the result of the health they VISUALIZE. And if that person harbors a belief decided upon by logical thought, it gets absorbed into her subconscious and it is what acts out the effects. Not the "salt" or cooked veg, it is YOUR subconscious programming which makes it real.
So believe what makes you HAPPY in integrity all together your MIND, SPIRIT, and BODY.
This does not work if you are convincing yourself of something that is not in integrity; ie- I can eat McDs fast food every other day and be in perfectly clear health because it makes me happy! - yet you KNOW in your subconscious that it is not good for you. We can't "convince" our bodies to act out the way we want, it has to be our certain unwaivering truth with NO DOUBT.
Nobody else's experience will be your experience unless you declare to your subconscious that it will be ahead of time, decide "she is right, her truth is my truth", then it happens that way.
There is a Chinese saying "Disease is knowing what to do and not doing it" ...
that means you know (believe) smoking is not good but do it every day and curse yourself for it = disease
OR - you truly honestly believe and programmed in your subconscious that you can smoke until you are 86 and live a fun life and not hate yourself for this action every day and >>> those people do not get cancer.
Change your mind, change your perception of truth, you change your life.
Watch the Gregg Braden vid on my page
Mish,
This is a reminder that you are on 30bananasaday which is a low-fat raw vegan forum. 30BAD has a policy on pro-cooked food talk. You agreed to read forum guidelines and notes before posting when you signed up here. Please take a look at these links.
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/30bads-policy-on-procooked
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/take-it-somewhere-else
Failure to comply will result in your removal from 30BAD.
The Peacekeepers
May I politely suggest that a first warning not include an ultimatum? Something like "Failure to comply will result in your removal from 30BAD" seems so harsh and unfeeling. We're adults here, and we understand that a reminder of the guidelines may be appropriate at times, and we are happy to simply be reminded.
A tone that is too formal, and words that are seemingly too blunt and officious, may engender resentment among those very people whose compliance you are so eager to attain.
If it were me posting a reminder (and I know it's not me, so I don't get to decide), I would make it the same sort of speech that I might use with someone in person. Someone that I might like to get to know, someone I might want to encourage and help, someone who makes or will make a positive contribution. It's hard to imagine myself saying what's in the warning above to someone in person, except to someone who I'd like to drive away.
Anyway, that's just my take on it. I'm not even really attached to this discussion, but the warning above just stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
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