Hi Raw Friends-  I look at those 1 pound containers of leafy greens and Wow! does that look like a lot of roughage!  Could you share how your appetite regarding greens has changed as you've progressed with your 811 diet?  Has your choice of greens changed?  More sensitive to bitter tastes?  Eating more of them?  Less?  Prone to fantasizing about wheat-grass juice retention enemas?  or maybe not........

         Years ago when I first started eating raw vegan, I used to eat huge amounts of kale.  Now, guess what, it makes my thyroid swell up.......Yep, Dr. Dough Graham is seriously onto something when he tells us to eat tender leafy greens.  

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  • There isn't much difference. it's all going in and coming out the same place ;)

  • I almost never eat greens straight, even though i eat a ton of them. I eat garden lettuce right out of the ground, but stronger tasting greens like spinach I usually put into my banana smoothies...Just a personal preference. Not a huge fan of salads :).

  • I didn't know this about kale.  I'll switch to more lettuce.  Is it okay now and then?  Is a few leaves a day okay?   

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  • Thanks for the thoughtful perspective on that- that makes sense now.

  • I find I'm veering away from the green smoothies with kale or spinach and am preferring butter lettuce and red leaf lettuce with lot's of heirloom tomatoes. Yum.

  • I still have yet to find a tasty raw dressing that I like, and can't imagine eating a large salad without dressing yet.  I do find that a handful of raisins helps a bowl of salad greens go down nice.  I do green smoothies alot.  The one thing I've sort of developed a big fondness for in salad, and could imagine loving in its naked state, is butter lettuce.

  • Hi Nova,

    I am bit confused here. I actually read the opposite - that raw spinach is safer than cooked (I think Gabriel Cousen mentioned it) I have just started raw food and I find young leaves spinach very pleasant in smoothies. I couldn't stand it as a child. My mum was feeding my brother and I with cooked spinach to fix our iron deficiency. I guess it worked judging by our blood tests. Does enyone know how much is safe amount of spinach ? At the moment I can't imagine eating 0.5 kilo of greens a day.
    •      Why do some sources say that the oxalic levels are reduced when cooked and other sources say the opposite?  Isn't this as simple as measuring it?  I don't get that.

  • There are days when I do not want to eat many greens at all and just hit the fruit and then days when I have just got to eat loads of lettuce and nice juicy celery!!!

    Lettuce - eat most days

    Celery - eat most days

    Spinach - perhaps once or twice a week

    Eating greens gives me a real sense of completeness with my diet, which has not changed since I became an 811 vegan.

    Kale I have eaten on and off but dont miss it if I do not eat it. Wheat grass I have never been into so... Things like rocket I can eat, parsley etc and dont mind the taste now and again though rocket is pretty strong tasting!

    I still love eating greens and always benefit from the help they give my digestion. Fruits & Greens for me!!!!!

    Never normally juice my greens as I love eating them so much.

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