I have a question I hope someone can shed light on please - when we are lean and eating a low fat diet, our blood and muscle fat is low, so insulin is effective at keeping blood sugar regulated. But what if you are fat and eating a low fat diet. What if you are say carrying 20 or even 30 or more kilos of extra fat (specifically fat) but you have been eating a low fat high carb diet for say just two months consistently - 90/5/5 to 80/10/10 - at this point do you still have some residual level of insulin resistance due to fat levels?? In other words, even though you are eating low fat high carb for a good introductory people of time, are you still in reality having a higher than normal level of insulin response than you would if you were not carrying that extra fat?
The main reason I ask is, on the science, would an over weight person be ill advised to consume refined sugars even on a high carb low fat diet, until they got the weight off, or does it not really make any difference?
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no you won't have excess fat in the blood stream, it only takes about 24 hours for your blood fat to go down after eating your last high fat meal. the issue for fat people is they may already have underlying issues that make them insulin resistant so they may need to eat low glycemic foods for a while.
Hi hows it going :) Thanks a lot for that reply - that was what I thought but I wasn't sure on that point.
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interesting question. I've also wondered if the heavier individual would have excess fat flowing through there blood as they would be in the processing of burning this fat off ? I've also wondered how this excess fat (a fuel source) would affect appetite for an individual IE would they be less hungry since there body is busy burning off fat stores then say the leaner person with less fast stores?
I think what happens in that case is really fat is only released (relatively) slowly and is regulated by the body, it would be very unlikely to have a situation where fat was released so quickly that it required insulin to store it again. If this were true we would be able to have athletic performance without any glycogen, something clearly not possible.
yeah where my curiousity comes into play is. when I lost weight i hit a point where all the sudden i got hungry. really hungry and I shoveled in lots and lots of food. It was as if my body was out of available fat to just torch off or something. Even tho I clearly had and still do have that remaining flab i cant seem to torch.
when i switched to this way of eating the appettite as still out of control. in the last however many months its toned down again some tho.
For me I cannot simply count my calories and control how much I eat IE set myself to a certain amount. I have to and must eat till i'm satisfied. regardless of what that caloric amount is. If i force myself to eat only X amount or something I'm hungry.
I'm convinced at this point the body will do what the body will do all we gotta do is shovel in proper foods. I just wish my body would get rid of the last of this flab already.
I also am interested in this dicussion. I still have quite a lot of body fat (and belly fat), but I am eating a lot of fruit and vegetables and low fat (cronometer has me set to 13.7g a day) and have been eating this way for about 2 months (Raw Til 4). I tend to add about 3-4 tbs of coconut sugar in my breakfast smoothie and the rest is sugars from fruit. I've not had a blood test and still feeling fine, but still would like to know more info about this topic.
Yeah I'm still very confused about the whole refined sugar thing. I'm not afraid of it, coconut sugar is awesome, and definitely necessary in my opinion if your fruit is lacking in calories, but I also am not sure about the 10,000 calories a day thing, or even 5,000 if you're not using it for athletics. Dr. McDougall quotes a study where people did start storing a small amount of fat daily when consistently fed excessive calories from refined sugar (I mean storing fat through lipogenesis).
I think however it's always better over than under, on average anyway - because a relatively small excess will easily be burned up and used by the body, but under-eating consistently is very bad for the body not only in terms of minerals and vitamins but also obviously calories from sugars for fuel. The body can't repair, regenerate and build itself properly if it is low on sugars over time and the brain is sending signals for activity to slow down. Cells and organs can't detoxify as well, etc etc.